Mr. Senator.

No. As a matter of fact, it would do him justice.

Mr. Griffin.

How do you feel that way?

Mr. Senator.

I think if a man is exploring somebody who put out a sign, whoever it may be, who would want to impeach Earl Warren, our Supreme Court Justice, or somebody who would put out these whys about the President the day he is coming here, which weren't good, the whys, I would say that this would be in favor of him of wanting to know these things, why should they be.

Mr. Griffin.

How would that

Mr. Senator.

Why would somebody want to impeach Earl Warren? For what reason? I don't know. I mean I don't have the answer to it. But why would a sign be put up there? Why did they want to impeach Earl Warren? Impeach him about what? I have asked myself this many times, but I don't know the answer.

Mr. Griffin.

You see, it seems strange that you should have mentioned your going to the Southland Hotel and having coffee and that occurred immediately after you had gone out to see the Earl Warren sign and had also gone to the post office then I say I wonder how you could have forgotten it, once you had your mind on having one to the Southland Hotel. You know you didn't go right from your apartment to the Southland Hotel to have coffee.

Mr. Senator.

I don't know. I don't know why. I know I explained that to Elmer Moore one day, and I said, "Elmer," or "Mr. Moore," rather, when he was questioning me, I said, "Elmer, of course, the first day I had been shaken up," and I had mentioned to Mr. Moore when he took my text of the whole thing how going about the sign, the two signs, how these had bypassed my mind.

Mr. Griffin.

Two signs?

Mr. Senator.

Well, when I say the signs, the billboard and the newspaper ad, when they took my statement.

Mr. Griffin.

When you talked to me on the telephone from New York, I guess it was on Monday----

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

You asked me if I had a copy, or if I had seen the Bernard Weissman ad.

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

And I take it that in your mind this is a justification, this somehow is a justification or some assistance to Jack in his defense, the fact that he was interested in finding out about that advertisement and about the sign?

Mr. Senator.

That's right. He wanted to know the whys. He wanted to know why somebody would want to impeach him.

Mr. Griffin.

Now is this a thought that has come to you after knowing, or after having talked with the attorneys and knowing what the strategy of the trial was going to be?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Talking with people?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Or is this something that you felt almost immediately, that this would be a justification?

Mr. Senator.

I thought definitely in my own thinking that this was a justification, because when I was put on the witness stand for the bond hearing in early, I think it was, December, I am not sure Just when it was, when I was questioned about that by Mr. Alexander, I told him that if anything this would be helping Jack, in wanting to know why something of this nature would want to be put out in Dallas. Why did the Dallas Daily Morning News want to accept an ad like this when the President was coming into town that day?

Mr. Griffin.

When you went out with Jack, did Jack tell you at all what he was going to do with this information that he got?

Mr. Senator.

No; none whatsoever.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he indicate that he might have been working for a newspaper?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Trying to do some freelance work for a newspaper?

Mr. Senator.

No; there wasn't a thing mentioned. I say when Jack gets his mind set on something, he wants to know why, the information, the why.