Mr. Griffin.

How about the next day, on Saturday?

Mr. Senator.

On Saturday?

Mr. Griffin.

Did you make any toll calls on that day?

Mr. Senator.

I don't think so. When I say I don't think so, I don't remember if I did or not, but I don't think so. I don't want to say "No" positively or "Yes" positive, because I am not sure. I just don't think so.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember Saturday morning, November 23, do you remember whether Jack received any telephone calls that morning?

Mr. Senator.

I don't remember.

Mr. Griffin.

Would you recall, for example, whether Larry Crafard called that morning?

Mr. Senator.

I don't remember if he did or not. As I say, I can't be quoted, because I ain't positive. I can't say yes or no because I don't remember on that.

Mr. Griffin.

When did you first become aware that Larry Crafard was no longer in Dallas?

Mr. Senator.

The following Tuesday.

Mr. Griffin.

How did you find out about that?

Mr. Senator.

When I went up there I asked Andrew one night, and I happened to remember that it was Tuesday, one of the things I do remember, and I said to Andrew, I said, "Andrew, where is Larry?" I said, "I didn't see him yesterday either," or something like that, to that effect, and he said he had left, and I said, "When did he leave?" He said he had left Saturday.

Mr. Griffin.

How did Andrew know that?

Mr. Senator.

He said--I think now he said he took $8 from the till, or something to that effect, and I think he left a note that he was leaving, something like that. These are not positive words, but I think this is what he said. Something to that effect. And that is the first time I ever knew.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Andrew have any explanation as to why Larry left?

Mr. Senator.

No; not that I know of. Incidentally, Andrew was back at the trial, you know.

Mr. Griffin.

Larry?

Mr. Senator.

I mean Larry, because Andrew lives in Dallas.

Mr. Griffin.

Yes; he was at the trial?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; they said he hitchhiked in from Wisconsin or some place out there. I don't know where it is. They said he hitchhiked all the way back for the trial. That is what I heard.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you talk to him?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; I talked to him when I was sitting on the witness bench one day.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he tell you why he came back to Dallas?

Mr. Senator.

No; but he said, he mentioned that he hitchhiked back, but he didn't say why he came back or anything of that nature.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he say anything to you about why he left?

Mr. Senator.

No; he didn't. I never asked him. As a matter of fact, I wanted to ask him, but I didn't. I couldn't imagine why he left. I believe he was on the witness stand. What happened, I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

You know we were talking about what you did on Saturday.

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

During the afternoon.

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

I have here in front of me a copy of a statement that you provided the Dallas Police Department. I notice in here that you say that you left the house around noon on Saturday.

Mr. Senator.

Something like that; yes.

Mr. Griffin.

And that you had some things to do. Now try to think hack to when you talked with the police department. What things did you have to do on Saturday?

Mr. Senator.

I can't imagine. I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you have anything to do in connection with your business?

Mr. Senator.

No; I didn't work that day.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you have any shopping to do other than for the groceries you bought?