Mr. Senator.

whatever they could get their hands on to see. They wanted to know this about him and that about him.

Mr. Griffin.

Did they want to know if he was involved with anybody else, whether there could have been a plot or a conspiracy to kill Oswald?

Mr. Senator.

I am certain that probably would run through the minds of everybody.

Mr. Griffin.

Were they asking questions about that?

Mr. Senator.

They have asked me so many questions that I can't even remember to think of them, you know, because there were so many questions thrown at you. And when they are throwing them at you, the general questions, they wanted to see the club, they wanted to see pictures, who were the strippers, this, that and whatnot. There was nothing precise except the curiosity of the things they wanted to see.

Mr. Griffin.

Now when you talked with Howard, of course, Howard indicated to you that you probably would be a witness for Jack, did he not?

Mr. Senator.

I don't remember the incident at that time. I don't remember if he said it or not because I would probably say it was a little too soon at that time, the happenings, and I assume that Howard was kept pretty busy at the beginning, probably going to see Jack Ruby and this. You see, people were grabbing everybody.

Mr. Griffin.

When is the first time that you recall talking with anyone about being a witness for Jack?

Mr. Senator.

At that time it didn't even enter my head. I wasn't thinking about that even. But as time went by, and I can't specify just how much time went by, I believe it was when Mr. Belli came into the case. See, I don't remember just how long it was from there until they got this Belli.

Mr. Griffin.

Let me ask you this: After you heard that Jack had killed Oswald, did you have any idea, did you think, why did he do it?

Mr. Senator.

I hadn't the slightest idea. I couldn't imagine why. I'll tell you why I say that. Because he never at any time ever gave me any indication of anything.

Mr. Griffin.

Have you since then----

Mr. Senator.

I just couldn't picture this man doing it.

Mr. Griffin.

Why was that?

Mr. Senator.

I couldn't think. I couldn't picture him being of this nature.

Mr. Griffin.

And there was nothing that he had done that you had seen up to that point that would indicate that he had any thought about it?

Mr. Senator.

No, none whatsoever. As a matter of fact, he had never even mentioned this Oswald to me during this occurrence even, but he had talked about the President, and he had talked about Mrs. Kennedy and the children, I don't know how many time.

Mr. Griffin.

But did you think he was any more disturbed than what you----

Mr. Senator.

He was plenty disturbed. He was plenty disturbed. The man was crying. People have seen him, not only I, people have seen him crying. As a matter of fact, one of the kids in the club one night when we sat in a corner related he was crying and very, very disturbed. I believe it was one afternoon he was in there, if I remember right, I think it was the colored boy, Andrews, if I am not mistaken, I think said he saw him in a solemn condition or whatever condition you want to call it.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember when you were interviewed by Elmer Moore?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Where were you living at that time? Who were you staying with at that time?

Mr. Senator.

I don't want to be quoted but I think I was staying with Jean Lauve then. I am not sure, but I think I was there at that time.

Mr. Griffin.

Where did the interview take place?

Mr. Senator.

At the FBI building. I can't think of the name of the building, but the FBI people.

Mr. Griffin.

The office of the Secret Service? Moore is with the Secret Service.

Mr. Senator.

Yes, the Secret Service. I meant to say the Secret Service.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he call you and ask you to come down?