Mr. Griffin.

What was the other bar that you were in?

Mr. Senator.

It was very seldom I ever went there. the name of it. I'm trying to think of It is a short name too, and I can't even put my finger on it.

Mr. Griffin.

What street was it on?

Mr. Senator.

On Fitzhugh.

Mr. Griffin.

Where is that located?

Mr. Senator.

It was on Fitzhugh. It runs off of, I think--down where Travis is?

Mr. Griffin.

No.

Mr. Senator.

Fitzhugh and Travis. I should know the name of it but I can't get it off my tongue. It is a short name too.

Mr. Griffin.

Is that anywhere near Hall Street?

Mr. Senator.

No; this is uptown about I would probably say from the downtown area I would imagine it would probably take you 10 minutes to get up there.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you mean the time you spent with Downey and Barclay--what did you talk about with them that night, Saturday night?

Mr. Senator.

We talked about the occurrence of the shooting of the President, that there. It was just a gloomy night. That is why I didn't want to stay long. I said I wanted to get home and they said they wanted to get home.

Mr. Griffin.

Had you had a date to meet them at the Burgundy Room?

Mr. Senator.

No; I think I met them both by chance there. Now I am not sure if I had a date to meet Bill or not, I don't remember, but I think Mike just walked in casually. I mean just happened to walk in.

Mr. Griffin.

Is Bill married?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

And how about Mike?

Mr. Senator.

Mike; yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Did they know Jack?

Mr. Senator.

Who don't know Jack in Dallas? They all knew him.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you talk about Jack that night?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

About how much time would you say you spent with them Saturday?

Mr. Senator.

We went to that bar, I would roughly say maybe a half hour to three quarters of an hour, I would guess around that time.

Mr. Griffin.

That was at the Burgundy Room?

Mr. Senator.

No; that is when we went to this other place and had a beer.

Mr. Griffin.

All together, the time you spent at the Burgundy Room and the other place on Fitzhugh how much time did you spend with them?

Mr. Senator.

Maybe an hour and a half.

Mr. Griffin.

And then when you went home what did you do?

Mr. Senator.

I went home and went to bed. I think I took a newspaper with me, if I am not mistaken and went home and went to bed.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you get to bed at what you would consider an early hour Saturday night?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; I would say it was somewhere around 11.

Mr. Griffin.

How much sleep do you normally get, when you go to bed, how much sleep do you normally put in a night?

Mr. Senator.

Well, of course, that would go according to what time you went to bed, you know. It could be 4, 5, 6, 7 hours. I doubt if I ever stay in bed more than 8 hours the most, if it ever happens that long, which is rare.

Mr. Griffin.

So would it be your estimate that on Sunday morning you arose by 7 o'clock?

Mr. Senator.

No; I don't think I got up that early.

Mr. Griffin.

If you didn't get up that early, then would it have been because you got to bed late that night after 11 or after midnight?

Mr. Senator.

No; I must have been home about 11 o'clock that night. I think I read a little bit but I know I was in bed before 12. I think I was in the apartment around 11. I got home around 11.

Mr. Griffin.

You don't think you got more than 8 hours sleep that night or do you?