Mr. Senator.

I could recollect the one who said it when I heard her say it.

Mr. Griffin.

Which one was that?

Mr. Senator.

I don't know her name. I know her.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you not know the names of any of the people who work in there?

Mr. Senator.

This girl here, I mean I know them all, but I don't know them by name.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know any of them by name?

Mr. Senator.

No; I don't know any of them by name.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know the names of the owners?

Mr. Senator.

I know the owner. I know his first name. I don't know his last name.

Mr. Griffin.

What is that?

Mr. Senator.

His first name is Jim. There is a father and son. Jim is the father and Charles is the son.

Mr. Griffin.

How old would you say they are?

Mr. Senator.

I would probably say Charles must be---of course, they weren't there that day. Charles I would probably say is in--could be in I guess his late thirties, I'm not sure, and the father I would probably say is maybe in his late sixties or early seventies.

Mr. Griffin.

Can you describe the waitress that was on duty?

Mr. Senator.

She was a woman about, I would probably say in her late forties or maybe early fifties, dark halted if I remember rightly, and I believe brown eyes. I don't know how to describe her.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you know a waitress there by the name of Helen?

Mr. Senator.

Helen? A little short girl.

Mr. Griffin.

I don't know what she looks like.

Mr. Senator.

Yes; I know one. The other is a little short girl I think by the name of Helen. I think it is Helen. See, now once in a while they wear badges but I can't remember one from the other, outside of their faces. I always say hello to them. On the other hand, I never take that much notice of Who's who.

Mr. Griffin.

Of course, the waitress who was on duty knew that you were Jack Ruby's roommate, did she not?

Mr. Senator.

I don't think so. I don't think she did.

Mr. Griffin.

The people at the Eatwell knew----

Mr. Senator.

Some know me but I don't think this one knew me.

Mr. Griffin.

They know Jack as well as they know you, don't they?

Mr. Senator.

No; I don't know if they know him. See, Jack and I never went in there, I mean together.

Mr. Griffin.

Jack eats there regularly?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Or ate there regularly, did he not?

Mr. Senator.

No; Jack don't eat there because he don't like their type cooking. No; Jack don't eat there. Now I go there every day. I go there every day, I go there every morning. I have coffee, I would say, probably 7 days a week.

Mr. Griffin.

Was there any recognition by anyone at the Eatwell while you were in there?

Mr. Senator.

There was very few people in there that morning.

Mr. Griffin.

But of the people who were there, did any of them appear to recognize that you were connected with Jack Ruby when they learned over the television set that Jack Ruby had----

Mr. Senator.

I would probably say to the best of my knowledge, no.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, that would indicate that nobody said anything to you about it. You did not have anything to----

Mr. Senator.

No, they didn't say a word to me about it. Now, if they did or not, as I say, to the best of my knowledge, no. Now I can't quote myself, if I am that correct or not.

Mr. Griffin.

I am curious as to any other people that you thought of contacting after you heard that Jack had shot----

Mr. Senator.

No; that was it.

Mr. Griffin.

Of course, you