Mr. Hubert.

coffee and Cokes and Seven-Ups and soft drinks without cost? He gave them that?

Mr. Senator.

Yes; that was the nature of it.

Mr. Hubert.

What was the arrangement about the entrance fee? They didn't pay that, if they came socially?

Mr. Senator.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

You have been on the door yourself?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you have any instructions on that?

Mr. Senator.

No, they didn't pay entry.

Mr. Hubert.

Did they pay for drinks?

Mr. Senator.

They had a special rate.

Mr. Hubert.

What was it?

Mr. Senator.

I think 40 cents, or anybody that was a friend of his--in other words, for an example, your taxi drivers, the taxi drivers used to bring customers. In other words, an out-of-towner would say "where can you go," they would say the Carousel or the Colony or wherever they may bring them.
So they brought them up there, in other words, if they were off duty and wanted to come up, they were guests of Jack's, and they paid a special price for drinks.

Mr. Hubert.

And they didn't pay the admission charge?

Mr. Senator.

No. Now the fellows who worked downstairs in the garage, they were allowed in, but at a special price. The special price was no different for anybody. It was all one price, the special.
In other words, they gave them a discount on beer or the setups, whichever they were having, and your hotel bellcaps and things in that area, he always let them in free.
I mean he was good to these type people, you know, and, of course, these weren't people of tremendous means or of that nature, and everyone had a cut price, he always gave them a discount on the drinks.

Mr. Griffin.

I want to go back a bit. Talking about the ownership of the Vegas Club and the Carousel Club, did Jack rent the premises of the Vegas Club or did he own part of that building?

Mr. Senator.

No, I think he rented it.

Mr. Griffin.

He rented it, so when you talk about ownership of that operation out there---

Mr. Senator.

Not owning the building.

Mr. Griffin.

You are not talking about any real estate.

Mr. Senator.

No, no.

Mr. Griffin.

He did have some physical assets out there I suppose? He had tables and chairs?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

And a piano maybe?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

So, that is what you are talking about when you talk about ownership?

Mr. Senator.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Right?

Mr. Senator.

Yes. In other words, ownership, I refer to the merchandise or the things in the place, not only the building.

Mr. Griffin.

How about the right to get the profits if there were any? Did he get the profits off the Vegas Club or did Eva Grant get the profits, or did they share it in some way?

Mr. Senator.

This part I don't know. All I know is the money was handled by Eva, and which way the money ever swung was left out of my--wasn't any of my business.

Mr. Griffin.

Jack had a practice at the Carousel, and correct me if I am wrong about this, that at the end of every night, he would take that night's receipts and he would take them down to his car, right?

Mr. Senator.

Either that or put them in his pocket.

Mr. Griffin.

Or put them in his pocket?

Mr. Senator.

Yes, whichever he saw fit.