(Testimony of Ralph Paul)
Mr. Hubert.
Do you recognize the place at all?
Mr. Paul.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you know who the girl is who is in the stripper suit?
Mr. Paul.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you know who the man is, sitting down at the table?
Mr. Paul.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you know who that bartender is standing at the back?
Mr. Paul.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you know a man by the name of Mickey Ryan?
Mr. Paul.
No--I might have heard the name but I never knew a guy with a name like that.
Mr. Hubert.
You don't recognize the man at the bar?
Mr. Paul.
No--it's not in the Carousel, that's for sure. The Carousel had no cloths on the tables.
Mr. Hubert.
Nor did it have a bar?
Mr. Paul.
It had a bar.
Mr. Hubert.
I mean, not for liquor.
Mr. Paul.
No; that's right--that looks like a private club.
Mr. Hubert.
Were you familiar with the notebooks and memo books that Ruby kept?
Mr. Paul.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you ever see them at all?
Mr. Paul.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
I think that one of the girls in the club had a boy friend named Tommy, do you know who that was-- Tommy?
Mr. Paul.
The only real boy friends that I can give you the name of and she got married to the boy recently.
Mr. Hubert.
Who was that?
Mr. Paul.
He was in the police department, but I can't think of his name. He made her give up the business and they got married and went to California, but you know, talking about boy friends, those girls have boy friends all the time they are different boy friends--you never know which one is which. I can't remember one name from another.
Mr. Hubert.
Well, here's what I wanted to get at--after you took over the club, you apparently hired someone to collect the cover charge at the front?
Mr. Paul.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
He was a gray-haired man, I'm told?
Mr. Paul.
No, it was Leo Torti.
Mr. Hubert.
[Spelling] T-o-r-t-i?
Mr. Paul.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
You didn't have a gray-haired man there?
Mr. Paul.
No, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Where did you get him, had he been there before?
Mr. Paul.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
He had worked there before?
Mr. Paul.
Well, he didn't actually work, he used to help Eva, and when Eva closed that place down he came to help there, but he never got paid for anything--just, I took him home and I took him out for a bite to eat.
Mr. Hubert.
How old a man would he have been?
Mr. Paul.
Forty or forty something--he isn't gray. I'm the only gray man that was there.
Mr. Hubert.
There was no gray man who was on the door collecting?
Mr. Paul.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
Did Eva close up the Vegas?
Mr. Paul.
Yes, she closed it up and then she sold it.
Mr. Hubert.
When--before the Carousel was closed up?
Mr. Paul.
Oh, yes, she closed it up right after New Year's.
Mr. Hubert.
Right after Ruby was put in jail?
Mr. Paul.
No, right after New Year's.
Mr. Hubert.
You mean she sold it?
Mr. Paul.
She sold it.
Mr. Hubert.
Whom did she sell it to?
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