Mr. Hubert.

of Andrew Armstrong, as Exhibit 5301 A through E, and there are five pictures here showing a man and two girls--Jack Ruby is the man, of course; is that right?

Mr. Paul.

I guess.

Mr. Hubert.

And the girl on your right, as you look at the picture?

Mr. Paul.

I'm not seeing it.

Mr. Hubert.

I would like for you to identify both girls, but do so in such a way that the record can show it--in other words, when you say, "this" it won't show up on the record, but when you say "this" you must say the girl on the left-hand side of the picture as you are looking at it--is that who you mean?

Mr. Paul.

Yes; that's Dale.

Mr. Hubert.

That's the girl called Joyce Day?

Mr. Paul.

Joy Dale.

Mr. Hubert.

That's the one on the right-hand side of the picture?

Mr. Paul.

Yes; the one on the right-hand side is--what do you call her again--that little girl up that went to court?

Mr. Hubert.

Little Lynn?

Mr. Paul.

Little Lynn.

Mr. Hubert.

That's Karen Bennett, did you know her as that?

Mr. Paul.

No; I never knew her as that, all I knew her was Little Lynn.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know what the relationship between this Dale girl and Jack Ruby was that you have identified in Exhibit 5301 A through E, the deposition of Andrew Armstrong?

Mr. Paul.

I don't know what Andrew knew, but I know nothing about her. I know she worked there she was a stripper.

Mr. Hubert.

So far as you know, was there any romantic relationship or sex relationship?

Mr. Paul.

I don't know. I wouldn't say "yes" and I wouldn't say "no."

Mr. Hubert.

You Just don't know?

Mr. Paul.

Anything I don't know--I can't say I know.

Mr. Hubert.

That's absolutely correct. I am simply asking you because you have been a friend a long time and as you said a moment ago, he told you some of the things that he wanted you to know?

Mr. Paul.

Well; I don't think he wanted me to know about any of the girls that worked in the club, even if he did have affairs with them--that would be I probably would say something to him, but on the outside, I know a lot of girls that he had affairs with.

Mr. Hubert.

I'm now going to show you a picture which has been identified as one of the pictures in Exhibit 5303 A through M deposition on Andrew Armstrong, a picture which shows a girl in a bikini suit, a blond girl. There seems to be two sailors in the picture and on the right-hand side of the picture as you look at it, there is a rather large man in a white shirt with his left elbow leaning on the stage, and I ask you if you know who the girl is, do you recognize her?

Mr. Paul.

That's the same Kathy Kay.

Mr. Hubert.

That's Kathy Kay?

Mr. Paul.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Who is the man, the fat man, that I have referred to with the white shirt, the very heavy man?

Mr. Paul.

This one over here?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mr. Paul.

I don't know.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ever see him there?

Mr. Paul.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

You never did?

Mr. Paul.

No-there isn't a familiar face in there. What is he supposed to be? No answers [laughing].

Mr. Hubert.

I will show you now two pictures that have been previously identified as Exhibit 5304 A and B in connection with the deposition of Andrew Armstrong, the first one showing a girl serving a man who is seated, and there is apparently a boy in the background, and I ask you if you can identify that place, first of all, is that the Carousel?

Mr. Paul.

No.