(Testimony of Robert Carl Patterson)
Mr. Griffin.
Can you think of anything else that you could tell us about Jack Ruby, about your meetings with him or acquaintanceship with him?
Mr. Patterson.
Well, like I say, I hadn't known him but about a month and a half. Maybe a month. It might have been 3 weeks prior to this incident, and I didn't know him that well, but he was trying to get us to play over there, because a band he had had for so long had left, and the one he had wasn't doing as good a job as he felt they should, and having a lot of trouble. Actually, my business dealings with Jack were with Mrs. Grant, and he came in one night while I was performing and she called me over and introduced me to him.
Mr. Griffin.
Mr. Patterson, I want to hand you a copy of a report that the FBI made after the interview with you on December 16, 1963. It is a copy of an interview report made by Special Agent James E. Garris, FBI, and pertains to an interview with you on the 16th of December 1963.
I don't know if you had a chance to read it, but, if you would, read it over and tell me if there are any additions or corrections that you would make to that other than what you have already told me here today, and also, if you would, indicate to me if that is a true and accurate report of the interview that you had with Mr. Garris? [Document marked Patterson Exhibit No. 5358.]
Mr. Patterson.
This part where it says intermittently for several years, I wouldn't say it was several years. More like a year, maybe.
Mr. Griffin.
Now you indicated to me that the first time you ever worked for Eva Grant was back in the summer of 1963?
Mr. Patterson.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
That wouldn't even be a year. Is there something that makes you think that you worked for or knew her even before then?
Mr. Patterson.
Sure. All the bands, more or less. I mean, knew of the place, you know, because I had a friend, Joe Johnson was playing there, and occasionally we would stop by and sit in, play a few numbers, so therefore----
Mr. Griffin.
I see.
Mr. Patterson.
I guess that is what I meant.
Mr. Griffin.
Then you would qualify the statement which reads as follows: "He has worked for Eva Grant, Jack Ruby's sister, at the Vegas Club in Dallas intermittently for several years as a guitar player and singer."
You would state instead that for maybe a year before this interview on December 16, you had visited the Vegas Club occasionally to see your friend Joe Johnson, and that on those occasions you had sat in with Joe Johnson's band?
Mr. Patterson.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
But that you never actually 'began to work there for money until the summer of 1963?
Mr. Patterson.
Yes; I couldn't pinpoint it whether it was the summer, beginning or end of the summer, really. I don't actually recall. I would have to go back and get--she put a few advertisements in ,the paper with my name, and I can go back and look at them. I don't remember, I played so many places.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you belong to any musicians' union?
Mr. Patterson.
Yes; I did once.
Mr. Griffin.
Were you a member of any union when you' were playing for Eva Grant at the Vegas Club?
Mr. Patterson.
No.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you have any agent at the tame you were playing for Eva Grant at the Vegas Club?
Mr. Patterson.
No.
Mr. Griffin.
Well, you said already that you don't have anything more that you could add, and I take it that there is nothing more that you would change in this interview report, is that correct? Or would you make some more changes in the interview report other than what we have already discussed today?
Mr. Patterson.
About Jack Ruby?
Mr. Griffin.
Yes, or about anything that appears in this interview report. You hesitate like you think there are some other things you could tell us. Let me encourage you to come forward and tell us everything that you do know.
Mr. Patterson.
Yes, this is all I remember.
Mr. Griffin.
Okay. I would like to ask if you in the future, or if you should remember anything or anything should come to your attention which could be
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