(Testimony of Curtis Laverne Crafard Resumed)
Mr. Griffin.
And the telephone number TA 4-6895?
Mr. Crafard.
Would be the number where they could be reached at.
Mr. Griffin.
Now under that there is the name Teddy Waiters, and Teddy is written in longhand and Walters is printed. Are both of those your handwriting?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
Now do you recall who Teddy Waiters was?
Mr. Crafard.
No, sir; I do not.
Mr. Griffin.
And there is a telephone number under that. What is that telephone number?
Mr. Crafard.
FE 7-4644.
Mr. Griffin.
There is an entry under that which looks like A. F. McKnight, with a telephone number LA 6-2251. Do you remember anything about A.F. McKnight?
Mr. Crafard.
I believe Jack called, had a conversation with him a couple of times on the telephone. Other than that I can't recall anything.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you recall what those conversations were about?
Mr. Crafard.
No, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
That concludes page 2 on the front side.
Mr. Crafard.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
I am going to turn the page over and ask you to look at the back of page 2. Now there is a number WH 2- 2371. Do you recognize that number?
Mr. Crafard.
No, sir; it doesn't mean anything to me.
Mr. Griffin.
And that is written in pen and then there is a line with nothing written on it, and then there is the entry Riverside 7-2362 Earl Products Co. How did that entry come to be put down?
Mr. Crafard.
I believe that was a local number Jack had me put down for the Earl Products Co. If I recall right that was the pay telephone of the Carousel Club, and anybody, he said if anybody called the Carousel Club asking about this Earl Products Co. or anything about that, to give them this number to call.
Mr. Griffin.
So Jack didn't want the Earl Products number to be associated with his personal phone at the club?
Mr. Crafard.
That is right.
Mr. Griffin.
Now was there a personal phone at the club?
Mr. Crafard.
Just a business phone, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
A business phone. What was the number on that business phone?
Mr. Crafard.
I don't remember it, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
Was it the same number as on his home phone?
Mr. Crafard.
No, sir; can I go back a little bit on this?
Mr. Griffin.
Yes.
Mr. Crafard.
Going back to page 2 starting with the Mar-Din Co., the number. below that I believe, the HA 7-3172 if I remember right it seems to me that this number and the address were different. It seems to me this number was either a Fort Worth or a Dallas number, and this address up here was just an address where I sent something, or something of that sort.
Mr. Griffin.
I see.
Mr. Crafard.
I was thinking about that and it kind of didn't----
Mr. Griffin.
You don't think the HA number is a Chicago number?
Mr. Crafard.
No, sir; I believe that is either a Dallas or a Fort Worth number after I think about it a little bit.
Mr. Griffin.
You are clear that there were two different telephones at the Carousel Club. One was a pay phone and the other was a business phone?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
Is it possible that the Riverside number was the business phone number?
Mr. Crafard.
It could have been; yes, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
There is an entry, there is rather a line with nothing written on it after-the entry Earl Products Co., and then there is a name and address and some numbers written; what is that?
Mr. Crafard.
Bill DeMar, Wichita, Kans. The telephone number JA 4-4241. The telephone number JA 8-6116. Bill DeMar was a comedian that Ruby had hired to come down to the club, and these are the numbers where he could be
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