Mr. Hubert.

You were scared off of it?

Mr. Litchfield.

No, sir; no, sir. I said in my mind I was positive that it looked like him, but I'm just as fallible as anybody else. I could be 100 percent wrong. I said, "In my mind, the man that I saw looked just like him," but then again, I can't say 100 percent.

Mr. Hubert.

And that is still your opinion?

Mr. Litchfield.

I said it bears a close resemblance, but not having come in contact with Oswald at all or having never met him or anything, and Just seeing him for a fleeting glance, the back of his head and when he walked by me; no, I can't be 100 percent pure positive.

Mr. Hubert.

But you knew all of that the first time you told it to Green?

Mr. Litchfield.

Well, like I said, "It sure does look like him--the man I saw there sure does look like Oswald," those are my words.

Mr. Hubert.

But, what has caused you to weaken in your opinion it was Oswald, as you tell it to me, is the fact that you got the impression that if you gave a positive identification and it proved to be false, that it would be a Federal offense, is that correct?

Mr. Litchfield.

Yes; they said, giving false information to the FBI, and I'm not 100 percent pure positive. I say, "It bears a close resemblance," and this is all I can say.

Mr. Hubert.

And that's all you did tell them?

Mr. Litchfield.

Yes, sir; that's the statement I signed.
Now, the big heavy-set fellow that I met, I shook hands with, made an impression on me. I was as close to him as I am to you now, or closer. I shook hands with him, and I saw him more than for a fleeting moment.

Mr. Hubert.

I Want to show you a picture and ask you if you can see any resemblance between the picture I am going to show you and the man you thought might be Oswald--this picture I am going to show you, the man is dressed up, but if you can use your imagination to see if there is any resemblance?

Mr. Litchfield.

To see if there is any resemblance?

Mr. Hubert.

To see if there is any resemblance in the face, at least, and the hair, and so forth?

Mr. Litchfield.

No; Oswald's hair isn't that thick in the center.

Mr. Hubert.

I'm not talking about Oswald, I'm talking about the man you saw at the club you thought might be Oswald.

Mr. Litchfield.

No, sir; there is no resemblance.

Mr. Hubert.

There is no resemblance?

Mr. Litchfield.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Let the record show that the picture that I have shown to the witness has been identified as Exhibit 5302 in the deposition of Andrew Armstrong. Do you know Captain Fritz of the Dallas Police Department?

Mr. Litchfield.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Have you had difficulties with him?

Mr. Litchfield.

Once.

Mr. Hubert.

In what regard?

Mr. Litchfield.

He sent two men to the place that I was working and had them pick me up for investigation without a warrant, bodily remove me out of my office, and held me on robbery by firearms, which I couldn't have a writ of habeas corpus that night, or something, I had to go before a Judge or something, and I didn't get out until the next morning, and he didn't even appear at the hearing.

Mr. Hubert.

How long ago was that?

Mr. Litchfield.

That was in--I think it was March or April of 1961, I believe.

Mr. Hubert.

You haven't seen him since?

Mr. Litchfield.

Well, when I had to go down to the police station, I did.

Mr. Hubert.

You mean the next morning?

Mr. Litchfield.

No; when I had to go down for questioning. No, he didn't even show up at the hearing there.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you know a man by the name of Jess Willard Lynch [spelling] J-e-s-s W-i-l-l-a-r-d L-y-n-c-h?

Mr. Litchfield.

I don't think so--the name doesn't sound familiar. I know a Lynch, but Jess Willard Lynch?