Mr. Crafard.

I had $5, and that was it.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you owed any money?

Mr. Crafard.

Like I say, there was no--he had come to an agreement to give me some money, but I didn't know how much he had figured on giving me, or anything. I think I took $5 out of the till, if I remember correct, and left a draw slip in the till.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you have any money other than the $5?

Mr. Crafard.

I think I had $2 in my pocket.

Mr. Hubert.

So you had $7, all together?

Mr. Crafard.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

Where were you going?

Mr. Crafard.

I went to Michigan.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you determined at that time that you were going to Michigan?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; I had wrote to my sister quite a while before that, and I had got no answer, and I had been worrying, wondering what the devil was wrong there because she never failed to answer me right away.

Mr. Hubert.

Was that the reason that you decided to go, to find out?

Mr. Crafard.

It was the only reason that I know of I was going.

Mr. Hubert.

What I want to get at is what was your motivation for leaving.

Mr. Crafard.

Well, I had been wanting to go up to Michigan to see my sister and find out what was wrong.

Mr. Hubert.

And that was the reason you went?

Mr. Crafard.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, then, this little rhubarb you had with Sack wasn't the real cause of it?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

That had nothing to do with your decision?

Mr. Crafard.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you leave any note to say what you were doing?

Mr. Crafard.

No; I left the key down with the boy at the garage, and told him to give it to Jack when Jack come in.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you leave any verbal message that you were leaving?

Mr. Crafard.

I think I told him to tell Jack I said goodby.

Mr. Hubert.

Don't you think you owed him more than that?

Mr. Crafard.

I never stopped to give it a thought.

Mr. Hubert.

Why didn't you call him and tell him that you wanted to go and see your sister?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't know. I haven't got any idea.

Mr. Hubert.

Why didn't you wait until he came in and tell him?

Mr. Crafard.

I made up my mind to go, and that was it.

Mr. Hubert.

How did you propose to travel that distance with $7?

Mr. Crafard.

Hitchhike.

Mr. Hubert.

Have you done that before in your life?

Mr. Crafard.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

You told absolutely nobody but the garageman that you were leaving; is that right?

Mr. Crafard.

That's right. He is the only one I spoke to. I gave him the key and told him to tell Jack I said goodby.

Mr. Hubert.

You did not tell him where you were going?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did you in fact go? What route did you take?

Mr. Crafard.

I went out and took, I think it is 77, I believe it is--right outside of Dallas.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you walk there?

Mr. Crafard.

I walked out about 15 or 18 blocks, I think it is, and a guy I had met Out at the fair picked me up. He saw me.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you arrange for him to pick you up?

Mr. Crafard.

No; he was going by, he saw me, and he recognized me.

Mr. Hubert.

What is his name?

Mr. Crafard.

How's that?

Mr. Hubert.

What is his name?