Mr. Hubert.

What reason did she ascribe for not giving it to you?

Mr. Crafard.

She said she was at a neighbor's place. She was babysitting for some friends of hers.

Mr. Hubert.

Yes; but you had asked her for her home address as well?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Her home phone?

Mr. Crafard.

She just wouldn't give me any reason for not giving me her home phone number that I can recall.

Mr. Hubert.

Let's see, that means that she was a person who was going out of town and did not want to talk to you any more, and didn't want to give you her number.

Mr. Crafard.

That is right.

Mr. Hubert.

Or where you could reach her?

Mr. Crafard.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

But she spoke to you for 3 hours?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Larry, when she called did she ask for anyone in particular?

Mr. Crafard.

She asked if it was the Carousel.

Mr. Griffin.

And then what did she say?

Mr. Crafard.

And I said yes, and I asked her if there was something I could do for her. I believe she said she had called in answer to an ad in the paper.

Mr. Griffin.

Was there an ad in the paper?

Mr. Crafard.

Ruby continuously run an ad for girls. After I got to talking to her--it's kind of funny as all get-out-- getting ready to leave town the next morning and then calling in in response to this ad.

Mr. Griffin.

I take it you got the impression after talking with her for a while that she really hadn't called in response to that ad.

Mr. Crafard.

I got the impression she was kind of a kook, in a way. I have known of girls to do this, call up strange people and talk to them as long as the person will talk to them.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you do that too?

Mr. Crafard.

No; I have never done that, not that way.

Mr. Hubert.

So it was not your normal way of doing?

Mr. Crafard.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

And it was the middle of the night, Larry?

Mr. Crafard.

That is right.

Mr. Hubert.

Why do you think you did that?

Mr. Crafard.

Just talked to her, somebody to talk to. I wasn't sleepy. Somebody to talk to more than anything.

Mr. Hubert.

You see the point--that that would be a story that would be much easier to accept if the time element was not present.

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; I understand.

Mr. Hubert.

You must admit it is rather extraordinary for two strangers to speak as long as you did on two separate occasions when apparently there was no particular purpose about it, and no particular future to it.

Mr. Crafard.

I can't explain it.

Mr. Hubert.

Did she indicate that she was somebody with the Carousel operation, what it was like?

Mr. Crafard.

No; not that I can recall.

Mr. Hubert.

Did she say what she wanted to do there, what kind of a job she wanted?

Mr. Crafard.

It was a job for waitresses was what he run all the time.

Mr. Hubert.

Did she mention that is what she was applying for?

Mr. Crafard.

She mentioned the fact that she was calling in connection with the ad.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, you must have asked her what she looked like.

Mr. Crafard.

Oh, yes; I asked her for a general description of herself, measurements and weight.

Mr. Hubert.

Can you tell us what she said?

Mr. Crafard.

As far as I can recall, she give me her general height and weight, color of her eyes, her hair.

Mr. Hubert.

What was all that?