Mr. Griffin.

Uh-huh. Now, when Rio Pierce's car went up the ramp, what did you see happen?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Well, they had the red lights on.

Mr. Griffin.

And how far did you see him go up the ramp?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Well, I couldn't see very far. I could see him right here just starting up the deal, swinging up this way and starting up this way. I can see him go up the ramp, but standing here, you can't see up very far.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you move out at all to see the car go?

Mr. Mcmillon.

No. I may have done like that to see who it was.

Mr. Griffin.

Looked around the corner?

Mr. Mcmillon.

But you can't see from there up the ramp.

Mr. Griffin.

I see. Now, between the time that Pierce's car went out and Oswald was brought down, where did you look, what were you looking at?

Mr. Mcmillon.

I was looking straight ahead, and I think I heard somebody say, "Here he comes," and naturally you become a little bit more attentive or a little bit more rigid, I will say, but they hadn't left very long before they started bringing Oswald out.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, is it your understanding that you believed that the three men, who you have marked here, Miller, you and----

Mr. Mcmillon.

Watson.

Mr. Griffin.

Watson were supposed, as Oswald got to them, to move out sort of on the flank and move with them to the armored car?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Yes, just like, the way I had done, you know, just kind of make, say, a left face and the ones on that side were doing the same thing, and he would be walking between us. That----

Mr. Griffin.

I see.

Mr. Mcmillon.

That was my understanding.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, do you remember anybody specifically telling you this?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Captain Jones told us, you know, to form two lines on both sides of him, form the barrier. The exact wording, I don't know, but form the barrier until they got the man in the car, and keep those people away from him.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, did you see anybody come down into the basement at any time while you were down there and ask if everything was all ready?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Come down that ramp?

Mr. Griffin.

No, no. Did anyone come down into the basement area to determine if things were set up properly?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Well, the fact of what I know, the man that I heard came right by me. I don't know if he was speaking directly to me or not, but I angered, "Yes, sir," something to that effect. Still don't know if he was speaking directly to me or not, but it was Captain Fritz coming out of the jail office followed by Leavelle, Graves, and Oswald.

Mr. Griffin.

When Captain Fritz spoke in your direction, that was the first time, was it, that anybody that you can recall inquired as to whether things were all set up?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, when Fritz---when Oswald emerged from that door, what did Watson do?

Mr. Mcmillon.

I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

What did you do?

Mr. Mcmillon.

When Oswald came out of the door?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Mcmillon.

Well, I was standing kind of like this.

Mr. Griffin.

You are standing----

Mr. Mcmillon.

Fritz comes right on by me.

Mr. Griffin.

You are standing with your back to the wall?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Right. They come out of the deal, right by me. Captain Fritz he had gone on by. Leavelle, he had gotten over to me. I glanced over here.

Mr. Griffin.

You glanced to your right?

Mr. Mcmillon.

Yes. They had gotten slightly past me. I started pulling