Mr. Crafard.

She called, she said, to start with, when we first started talking, she had called to find out about a job in the club. I don't know why she done it that way--that is what she said, as far as I can recall.

Mr. Hubert.

Was she aware that the President was dead?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; I believe we discussed that a little bit too. I don't recall what was said.

Mr. Hubert.

The first time you spoke to her, you said it was about mid-night--right?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

You had been asleep?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe I had just started dozing off when the phone rang.

Mr. Hubert.

And you spoke to her then about an hour?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; I believe I'm not sure I think Little Lynn called.

Mr. Hubert.

What time did she call?

Mr. Crafard.

Just the one time that I can recall.

Mr. Hubert.

What time?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe that was about 9:30 or 10 o'clock.

Mr. Hubert.

What did she say?

Mr. Crafard.

After I laid down.

Mr. Hubert.

What did she want?

Mr. Crafard.

She wanted to talk to Jack.

Mr. Hubert.

Did she tell you what about?

Mr. Crafard.

No; she just said it was urgent. I believe I told her Jack was at Eva's and give her Eva's number.

Mr. Hubert.

Where was she?

Mr. Crafard.

She was at her home in Fort Worth, as I understood.

Mr. Hubert.

Is that a long-distance call?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Any other workers, waitresses or girls come in that night?

Mr. Crafard.

No, none. Jack had had Andy call all of them to tell them not to come in.

Mr. Hubert.

Now when you ended the conversation with this girl that began about midnight, was there an arrangement for one or the other of you to call up again in a few minutes?

Mr. Crafard.

No; I told her I'd like to talk to her again. I told her I'd like to meet her. I told her I'd like to get acquainted with her. I tried to get her to talk a little longer. She said she had to hang up. And then she called me back 15 or 20 minutes later.

Mr. Hubert.

And then you continued to talk for a couple of hours?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

How did that end up?

Mr. Crafard.

Some one of the younger kids there woke up or something.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you made any arrangement to meet her, to see her?

Mr. Crafard.

No; no definite arrangements. I tried to get her to tell me what bus station she was leaving out of. She wouldn't even tell me what bus station she was leaving out of. I told her I'd meet her before she caught the bus, but she wouldn't tell me where she was leaving.

Mr. Hubert.

This conversation in fact, Larry, was kind of a love making on the phone deal, wasn't it?

Mr. Crafard.

More or less what you might say an attempt.

Mr. Hubert.

And part of that attempt of course would be trying to find out who she was and where you could meet her, wouldn't it?

Mr. Crafard.

Who she was and where I could meet her at her likes and her dislikes, such as that.

Mr. Hubert.

She wouldn't tell you any of that?

Mr. Crafard.

No, she wouldn't tell me where I could meet her at or anything, but other than we really talked as if we known each other for months, actually.

Mr. Hubert.

You didn't write down her name, Larry?

Mr. Crafard.

I think I wrote her name down, but I never could get her phone number.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did you write it down?