Mr. Hubert.

Did you ask Jack's permission to leave to go watch it?

Mr. Crafard.

I think we both told Jack that we was going to go watch it.

Mr. Hubert.

You and Andy did?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; I believe so.

Mr. Hubert.

Together?

Mr. Crafard.

No; we didn't figure on going. Andy was taking the day off so he could go and I told Jack I was figuring going on up and watching the parade.

Mr. Hubert.

What did he say about it?

Mr. Crafard.

He didn't say anything.

Mr. Hubert.

What?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't recall him saying anything.

Mr. Hubert.

You were asking him----

Mr. Crafard.

Other than maybe telling me it was all right to go or something.

Mr. Hubert.

That is what I was wondering. Did he express any consent or disapproval?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't recall what he said.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he mention what he was going to do about watching it?

Mr. Crafard.

Not that I recall.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you tell him where you were going to watch it, yourself?

Mr. Crafard.

No, sir.
(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. Hubert.

You recall, of course, the day that the President was shot.

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you recall the night before that, which would have been Thursday night?

Mr. Crafard.

As far as I can recall it was more or less a general night for the club.

Mr. Hubert.

Were there any special preparations by way of preparing for a larger crowd or for some program in connection with the President's visit?

Mr. Crafard.

Not that I can recall.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, the night prior to the President's visit was a routine night?

Mr. Crafard.

As far as I can recall.

Mr. Hubert.

I suppose you have put your mind to it since, particularly at the time it happened, because most people did, you know. They relate that historic event to their own lives and reconstruct what they were doing before and afterwards.
Did you do that? Have you ever done that?

Mr. Crafard.

I have tried to think of what I was doing before, the night before, a couple nights before, or something like that. I don't recall anything out of the ordinary.

Mr. Hubert.

If it was the ordinary, then I suppose it would have been that the club were closed up at its usual hour.

Mr. Crafard.

As far as I recall, yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And you were still sleeping there?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; I was still sleeping there.

Mr. Hubert.

So you would have gone to sleep?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

And then I suppose Ruby would have wakened you?

Mr. Crafard.

Andy woke me that morning. He come in early. Andy always put the beer in and he come in early to do that so that he could have the rest of the day off.

Mr. Hubert.

What time did Andy come in?

Mr. Crafard.

I think it was about 9:30 or something like that.

Mr. Hubert.

Came in personally?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes. He was there when the President was shot.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you asleep when he came in?

Mr. Crafard.

I was asleep when he came in.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you waken up when he came in?

Mr. Crafard.

I didn't wake up---Andy woke me up and told me that the President had been shot.