Mr. Crafard.

would be with him a little while and then I would start being on a salary.

Mr. Griffin.

How long were you with him? Well, let me put it this way: Did there come a time when you began to ask to be put on salary?

Mr. Cpafard.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

How long after?

Mr. Crafard.

Because I felt that the way things were, I didn't have any private life of my own. He wanted to tell me what I could do, who I could talk to, and who I couldn't talk to if he put me on a salary where I was maybe making $35 or $40 a week I could live on my own, which I would much prefer to do.

Mr. Griffin.

$35 or $40 plus the opportunity to live at the club?

Mr. Crafard.

As long as it was $35 or $40, period. I could live on my own; for the work I done at the club, I could live on my own.

Mr. Griffin.

All right. How long had you been with Jack before you started to ask him about this?

Mr. Crafard.

I probably had been with him about 4 or 5 weeks. That was about 2 weeks before President Kennedy was assassinated.

Mr. Griffin.

What did Jack say when you mentiond that to him?

Mr. Crafard.

He said he would see what he could do.

Mr. Griffin.

What do you mean by that? What did you understand by that?

Mr. Crafard.

Well, he said what he could do; he would figure his bookwork out and see what he could do.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you remind him of the fact that he had told you that at the beginning?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.
(Whereupon, at 12:10 p.m., the proceeding recessed.)

Mr. Crafard.

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Testimony of Curtis L. Crafard Resumed

Mr. Crafard.

The proceeding reconvened at 1:30 p.m.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, Mr. Crafard, this is a continuation of the deposition which was recessed for the lunch hour. You understand that we are continuing this deposition by the same authority that we commenced it with, and likewise that you are under the same oath that you were under and that you took at the beginning of that deposition?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Is that agreeable to you?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, when did you first hear that the President was going to visit Dallas?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe it was about 3 or 4 weeks before he came to Dallas. It was advertised in the paper.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you working for Ruby at that time?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir; it came out in the papers that showed the proposed route and the proposed secondary route of this trip through the city.

Mr. Hubert.

Are you saying that the first time you found out that he, President Kennedy, was going to visit the city, was when you read it in the newspapers?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

And that in that account that you read in the newspapers, the proposed route and an alternate route was given?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

That would have been just a very few days before he actually came, wouldn't it?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe that was at least a week before he came that that came out.

Mr. Hubert.

At any rate, whatever day the proposed route came out in the papers that was the first day that you found out that the President was coming to Dallas at all?

Mr. Crafard.

They had been thinking he was going to come to Dallas. They