Mr. Crafard.

We got those from Palumbo's Pizza House. All you had to do was stick them in a warmer and warm them up.

Mr. Griffin.

So his only expenses--tell me if you can think of any other expenses besides the one I recite here. He had the expenses of his entertainers, he had expenses for you and Andy Armstrong, he had rent and heat and light, and he had beer and pizza. Did he have any other expenses that you can think of?

Mr. Crafard.

Not that I would say would be Carousel business expenses, no. He had a lot of sinking money into things all the time.

Mr. Griffin.

What sort of things were those?

Mr. Crafard.

Well, he was putting quite a bit of money into this twist board exerciser that he was promoting.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he have any other promotions besides the twist board while you were with him?

Mr. Crafard.

Not that I recall. He would buy records and he had to buy flashbulbs and film for the camera. He took Polaroid pictures every night, three of them each night.

Mr. Griffin.

Three Polaroid pictures each night?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; we had one girl who was, I believe it was Tammi True, would get on the stage and she would get a guy up there with her on the stage and take a picture of them and and give the picture of the man, that was the only photograph taken and that would go right to the man.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, what other business, you say he was always sinking money into things.

Mr. Crafard.

Well, he had the Vegas Club and from what I understand he was taking money from the Vegas Club to keep the Carousel Club from what I understood which I never could figure out.

Mr. Griffin.

Why couldn't you figure that out?

Mr. Crafard.

Well, we always made enough to clear our bills, the Carousel made enough to clear the bills.

Mr. Griffin.

By the bills you include the salaries of the entertainers?

Mr. Crafard.

Most of that, yes. He was paying pretty good salaries. These girls got anywhere from $300 to $400, maybe $400, $500 a week for their enter-raining.

Mr. Griffin.

They all didn't get that much.

Mr. Crafard.

The entertainers, got anywhere from $300 to $500, $600 average, different.

Mr. Griffin.

Was that just the featured stripper or was that each stripper?

Mr. Crafard.

Jada was there, I believe, she was drawing $700 a month and the other girls I think was drawing between $300 and $500, somewhere between $300 and $500.

Mr. Griffin.

A month?

Mr. Crafard.

A month.

Mr. Griffin.

A month. How about "Little" Lynn when she came to work there, was she getting paid the same as the rest of them?

Mr. Griffin.

I believe so, I am not sure. I don't know what her wages were, I am not sure, positive about it.

Mr. Griffin.

Other than the twist beards and the Carousel and the Vegas Club what other things was Jack putting money into?

Mr. Crafard.

To my knowledge that is all he had. He never seemed to have any. He always claimed he was going broke all the time.

Mr. Griffin.

Was he actually selling these twist beards?

Mr. Crafard.

He had never had made any sales while I was with him.

Mr. Hubert.

Before you get into this, let me finish up this financial operation. I don't think you have mentioned what the waitresses got.

Mr. Crafard.

The waitresses worked on tips.

Mr. Hubert.

Purely? There was no expense in connection with that?

Mr. Crafard.

To my knowledge, no.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know if Armstrong got any salary?

Mr. Crafard.

He got a salary.

Mr. Hubert.

How much was it?