(Testimony of Curtis Laverne Crafard)
Mr. Crafard.
Most of the time he would be in before noon, between 10:30 and 12 o'clock.
Mr. Hubert.
Then what would he do with the rest of the day?
Mr. Crafard.
Well, he would be around the club for maybe anywhere from a half hour to 2 hours, then he would leave the club and I might not see him again until midnight.
Mr. Hubert.
And then he stayed until the club closed?
Mr. Crafard.
When he came back to the club after the club opened he generally stayed until the club closed. On three or four occasions he stayed until the club closed and then he went over to the Vegas Club.
Mr. Hubert.
Normally what would he do?
Mr. Crafard.
He would go over to the Vegas Club and pick up the receipts for the day.
Mr. Hubert.
And then what?
Mr. Crafard.
As far as I know, go home maybe stop for a bite to eat.
Mr. Griffin.
What would he do with the receipts?
Mr. Crafard.
He would carry them home with him and the next day bring them back to the Carousel.
Mr. Griffin.
Did he have a safe?
Mr. Crafard.
No, sir; he bought a safe while I was with him.
Mr. Griffin.
When was that?
Mr. Crafard.
It was about 2 weeks prior to the assassination of President Kennedy.
Mr. Griffin.
How did he happen to come to buy that safe?
Mr. Crafard.
Well, he was always carrying quite a bit of cash and he was always worried about having somebody rob him or something, and I guess he wanted, he finally made up his mind to buy a safe and he went down to buy a safe.
Mr. Griffin.
Were you with him?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes, sir; I was with him when he purchased the safe.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you recall where he went?
Mr. Crafard.
I don't recall the name of the company.
Mr. Griffin.
Whereabouts was it located?
Mr. Crafard.
Let's see, it was a block and a half right straight behind the Carousel Club, but I can't recall the name of the street.
Mr. Griffin.
It would have been on Field?
Mr. Crafard.
No, Commerce Field is next to Commerce, I believe.
Mr. Griffin.
Yes.
Mr. Crafard.
It was the next block back.
Mr. Griffin.
Was it a----
Mr. Crafard.
It was a furniture, office furniture supply house.
Mr. Griffin.
I see. Now, how big a safe was it that he bought?
Mr. Crafard.
It was a wall safe, a floor safe.
Mr. Griffin.
About how high would you say that it stood off the floor?
Mr. Crafard.
About 18 inches tall. The common type that is poured in the cement in the floor.
Mr. Griffin.
Was this poured in the cement?
Mr. Crafard.
No, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
Could somebody, if somebody had broken into the building, could they have carried this safe away?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes, sir. The safe was in his office and the office was always locked and I was there all the time.
Mr. Griffin.
But when you weren't there, if somebody had gotten into the building, and had broken into the office, why they could have carried this out?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes, Sir; they could have carried this out.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you have the combination of the safe?
Mr. Crafard.
No, sir; Mr. Ruby and Andy was the only ones who had the combination.
Mr. Griffin.
After he bought this safe did he use it to keep his money in?
Mr. Crafard.
To my knowledge he only used it for the night receipts from the Carousel Club and Andy when he checked out if Jack wasn't there, the safe had
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