(Testimony of Curtis Laverne Crafard)
Mr. Hubert.
we have just been talking about, to wit, the girl that Jack took out to dinner and otherwise met socially?
Mr. Crafard.
Her picture is in every one.
Mr. Hubert.
Her picture is in every one?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Can you identify the one that you are talking about by referring to her dress?
Mr. Crafard.
In Exhibit A it would be the middle girl wearing a red and white striped dress.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you remember if it was red and white?
Mr. Crafard.
No; I don't remember the color, but it seems to me it would be a stripe, something that people would wear.
Mr. Hubert.
Well, do you remember ever seeing that girl in a red and white dress similar to that dress?
Mr. Crafard.
I believe she was in the club one time with a red and white checkered dress on.
Mr. Hubert.
Not stripes like that?
Mr. Crafard.
No. It was a softer----
Mr. Hubert.
So your remark that it was red and white was inadvertent, or do you really have any recollection?
Mr. Crafard.
It would be an inadvertent remark.
Mr. Hubert.
All right. Go on to the next picture and call off the identification mark when you speak of it.
Mr. Crafard.
Exhibit B, it would be the girl, in the middle in the striped dress.
Mr. Hubert.
Yes.
Mr. Crafard.
In Exhibit C it would be the girl behind Ruby looking over his shoulder in the striped dress. Exhibit D it would be the girl behind Ruby looking over his shoulder with the striped dress. Exhibit E would be the girl in the middle with the striped dress.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you recognize Ruby in all of these pictures, too?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes; I do.
Mr. Hubert.
Who is the other girl?
Mr. Crafard.
The other girl was one of the strippers in his club.
Mr. Hubert.
What was her name?
Mr. Crafard.
I believe it is Tammi True.
Mr. Hubert.
That girl you have identified in all those pictures as having the striped dress, that is the girl you are talking about whom Ruby used to take out socially?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
And you don't know her name?
Mr. Crafard.
Could I say that other girl is Kathy Kay, I am definite of that after looking at her picture closer.
Mr. Hubert.
The blond girl is Kathy Kay?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
So you want to change your opinion expressed a moment ago that it was Tammi True, is that correct?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Prior to the taking of this segment of the deposition dealing with the identification of these photos, I think you had looked at at least one of these photos and could not recognize the girl that you have now recognized as being the companion of Ruby.
Mr. Crafard.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
As being such. Then later you have come to the conclusion that it is the girl. Can you tell us why you have now come to the conclusion that it is the same girl?
Mr. Crafard.
After looking at the whole group of pictures and the different angles of her head where you can see her features better, I came to the con- clusion that is the girl.
Mr. Hubert.
In other words, when you first expressed doubt as to whether it was, you were looking at one picture only?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes.
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