Mr. Hubert.

Was she a stripper?

Mr. Crafard.

No; she didn't work for him.

Mr. Hubert.

You don't know her first name?

Mr. Crafard.

I am not positive of her name. I don't recall her name. Names is something to me that doesn't mean much. I meet so many people.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember the two fellows who ran the Eatwell Restaurant?

Mr. Crafard.

Not too well.

Mr. Griffin.

Were there a couple of older men?

Mr. Crafard.

One older man that worked behind the counter in the evenings.

Mr. Griffin.

Did Jack also eat at the Eatwell?

Mr. Crafard.

He didn't eat there when I was there with him, after I went to work for him. I understood the guy knew Jack real well, in fact he got in the habit of calling me Jack Ruby, Jr., or Little Ruby, in a kind of teasing manner. He was a very friendly person.

Mr. Griffin.

Was that the older man?

Mr. Crafard.

He was an older man; I believe the oldest man that I saw there.

Mr. Griffin.

You don't recall his name, first name, do you?

Mr. Crafard.

No; I don't recall his first name.

Mr. Griffin.

Was one of the fellows in there called Jimmy, that you recall?

Mr. Crafard.

Not that I recall. There is one of those messes of pictures I would like to get hold of. There is one side of them I would just as soon get ahold of and tear up.
(Brief recess.)

Mr. Hubert.

You previously mentioned that there was a girl that Jack went out with socially.

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did I understand you correctly that you said she did not work at the club?

Mr. Crafard.

That is right.

Mr. Hubert.

How often did he go out with her, to your knowledge?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't know how often. It was quite often.

Mr. Hubert.

How would it come to your attention that he was going out with her?

Mr. Crafard.

Well, usually he would bring her in to the club with him before they would go, and after his club closed he would take her out to dinner.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you go out to dinner with them?

Mr. Crafard.

On one occasion, I was at the Vegas, we went over to the Vegas Club, and then the three of us went afterwards and had dinner.

Mr. Hubert.

How do you know other than that one occasion when he went out with her that he took her to dinner?

Mr. Crafard.

He would say that they was going to be taking her out to dinner.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ever see her at his apartment?

Mr. Crafard.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he ever indicate in any way that she did go to his apartment?

Mr. Crafard.

No, sir; not to my knowledge.

Mr. Hubert.

I am going to show you what I am marking five photographs on which I am writing as follows: "Washington, D.C., April 8, 1964, Exhibit 5200-A, Deposition of C. L. Crafard." And I am signing my name below there. On the next picture I am also marking, "Washington, D.C., April 8, 1964, Exhibit 5200-B, Deposition of C. L. Crafard," and I am placing my name below that. The third picture I am marking "Washington, D.C., April 8, 1964, Exhibit 5200-C, Deposition of C. L. Crafard," and signing my name below that. On the fourth picture I am marking "Washington, D.C., April 8, 1964, Exhibit 5200-D, Deposition of C. L. Crafard," and marking my name down on that; and on the fifth picture I am marking "Washington, D.C., April 8, 1964, Exhibit 5200-E, Deposition of C. L. Crafard" and signing my name.
(The pictures referred to were marked Exhibits Nos. 5200-A through E for identification.)

Mr. Hubert.

Now, I ask you to look at the pictures which have been marked for identification as follows: Exhibits 5200-A, 5200-B, 5200-C, 5200--D, and 5200-E, and I ask you if in any one or all of those pictures you can see the girl