Mr. Hubert.

Where did you work?

Mr. Crafard.

With a carnival. Then we went on up to Port Angeles, Wash.

Mr. Hubert.

Port Angeles?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

How long did you stay there?

Mr. Crafard.

We was there for about 6 weeks.

Mr. Hubert.

Until what date?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't remember the date.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, it was the summer of 1963, wasn't it?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Was your wife still with you?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir; we were together at that time.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. What was your next move?

Mr. Crafard.

The next thing happened she left me again.

Mr. Hubert.

On what date was that?

Mr. Crafard.

I couldn't give you a date on that either.

Mr. Hubert.

Well----

Mr. Crafard.

I can't remember the dates too well.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, it was the summer time?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir; it was in the summer. I believe it was in the latter part of August or the middle of August, I am not sure.

Mr. Hubert.

Did she leave any note this time when she left?

Mr. Crafard.

She left a note with some friends of ours in Port Angeles, Wash.

Mr. Hubert.

What was the cause of her leaving, did she say?

Mr. Crafard.

She didn't say.

Mr. Hubert.

Did she leave any forwarding address?

Mr. Crafard.

She had went to my brother's in Los Angeles, Calif.

Mr. Hubert.

Which brother was that, that is the one in the Army?

Mr. Crafard.

Crafard, yes, sir; Edward D.

Mr. Hubert.

How long did she stay with him?

Mr. Crafard.

She was there about 2 weeks.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did she go?

Mr. Crafard.

He brought her up to my folk's place, I went from Washington down to my folk's place.

Mr. Hubert.

That is Dallas, Oreg.?

Mr. Crafard.

He brought her up to my folk's there, in Dallas, Oreg.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you have a reconciliation again?

Mr. Crafard.

We tried a reconciliation. It didn't work out.

Mr. Hubert.

So what happened?

Mr. Crafard.

So subsequently, about 3 weeks later, I left home, my folk's place.

Mr. Hubert.

You left her there?

Mr. Crafard.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

She had already gone?

Mr. Crafard.

No; she was still there over at my folk's place.

Mr. Hubert.

That is what I mean, you left her there?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; I left her there.

Mr. Hubert.

Judging by the time schedule you had mentioned that would have been around the middle of September, is that correct?

Mr. Crafard.

I believe so; I am not sure.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did you go?

Mr. Crafard.

Let's see, I went to California. I went down on the coast and I worked for a Chinese man down there raising strawberries.

Mr. Hubert.

How long did you stay there?

Mr. Crafard.

I was there for about a week. And from there I went to Long Beach, Calif. I went to work on the new Playland down on Long Beach. I was there for about a month, I believe it was. Then I went to Barstow, Calif, where I went to work for produce out there.

Mr. Hubert.

What was the name of that?

Mr. Crafard.

I don't remember the name of that outfit.

Mr. Hubert.

How long did you stay there?

Mr. Crafard.

I was with him for about 3 or 4 weeks, I believe it was.