Mr. Hubert.

What place, in Michigan?

Mr. Crafard.

Clare.

Mr. Hubert.

C-l-a-i-r-e?

Mr. Crafard.

C-l-a-r-e.

Mr. Hubert.

That is when you were 10 years old?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember it?

Mr. Crafard.

I can remember going back; yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

How long did you live there?

Mr. Crafard.

We lived in the vicinity of Clare then for about 4 years.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you go to school there?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; until I graduated from eighth grade.

Mr. Hubert.

Then what happened?

Mr. Crafard.

We moved to Port Huron, Mich.

Mr. Hubert.

H-u-r-o-n, Mich.?

Mr. Crafard.

I attended school at Yale, Mich., Yale High School for 2 years, and then we moved back to California to the San Joaquin Valley again.

Mr. Hubert.

Same place as before?

Mr. Crafard.

No; we moved to a little place called Plainview where I at-tended school for a year, Strutmore High School and from there we went to Oregon. I dropped out of school and enlisted in the U.S. Army, September 18, 1958.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, do I understand you to say then that you had 3 years of high school education?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Was that--were those satisfactory years?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

I mean you have credit for those?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

You lack I year to graduate?

Mr. Crafard.

I lack about 6 months of finishing high school.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did you enlist?

Mr. Crafard.

I enlisted in Salem, Oreg.

Mr. Hubert.

And what assignments were you given?

Mr. Crafard.

I enlisted in the antiaircraft.

Mr. Hubert.

That is U.S. Army?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Where did you get basic training?

Mr. Crafard.

Fort Ord.

Mr. Hubert.

How long did you stay there?

Mr. Crafard.

I was in Fort Ord for 2 months and then I went to Presidio, San Francisco, where I was stationed at an air defense school for a period of 2 months and then I was assigned to D Battery, 2d Missile Battalion, San Francisco Defense Organization.
From there I went to Germany in April of 1959. I was transferred to Germany to Deisley Kersne, and I was stationed with the D Battery, 2d Missile Battalion there. I stayed there until November of 1959 then I was transferred back to the United States where I was discharged November 10, 1959.

Mr. Hubert.

How long did you serve altogether?

Mr. Crafard.

Thirteen months.

Mr. Hubert.

Is that the usual tour?

Mr. Crafard.

No, sir. The usual tour is 3 to 4 years.

Mr. Hubert.

Well now, what caused you to get out sooner?

Mr. Crafard.

As far as I understand it is the next thing to a medical discharge.

Mr. Hubert.

What was it based upon, do you know?

Mr. Crafard.

General, under honorable conditions.

Mr. Hubert.

You have a discharge reading general, under honorable conditions and you are now taking from your pocket a document which is a photo-static copy, I take it?

Mr. Crafard.

Yes; DD214.

Mr. Hubert.

Of Defense Department Form 14.