Mrs. Cheek.

I Wits waiting for the plumber to fix some plumbing there at the apartment house. That is where I was living. I don't remember all the things I did that day.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you remain there all day and watch TV all day?

Mrs. Cheek.

I just turned it on when the plumber wanted--he said the President is in the city and he said, "Let's look at TV a little," he said, "I haven't listened to any of the news."
So his name is Louis Zmolik and I turned on the TV.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you continue to watch television the rest of the day, or did you go back to your business?

Mrs. Cheek.

Watched it off and on. I was answering the phone, talking on the phone.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember if there were business calls that you had or social calls, or talking with people about the assassination, or what?

Mrs. Cheek.

Well, they might have been business calls, some of them and some I was talking about how terrible it was the President had been killed, what an awful thing.

Mr. Griffin.

Did your sister call you that day?

Mrs. Cheek.

No; I don't think she did. I didn't learn that, I think, until someone else called me to watch TV, that she had been on TV. I didn't see her on TV.

Mr. Griffin.

Did your sister appear? Was she interviewed on Television?

Mrs. Cheek.

Someone said that she was, and my sister in Tyler said she was.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you see her interviewed on TV?

Mrs. Cheek.

No; I didn't.

Mr. Griffin.

What day was that? Was that on Friday, the day the President was killed, or was it on Saturday?

Mrs. Cheek.

The President, I think, was killed wasn't he, on the 22d of November, Washington's Birthday? I remembered that.

Mr. Griffin.

The 22d of February is Washington's birthday.

Mrs. Cheek.

I mean November.

Mr. Griffin.

It was Friday, the 22d.

Mrs. Cheek.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Was that the day that Mrs. Roberts appeared on television, or was it a later date?

Mrs. Cheek.

I don't know. I never did see her on TV.

Mr. Griffin.

How about the next day on Saturday?

Mrs. Cheek.

I got the newspaper and saw the next morning, I think, where her picture was in the paper, but I didn't talk to her until-yes, she called me, my sister called me on Swiss Avenue. I have a sister living on Swiss. She called me and told me, I think, that Earlene was on TV, and we talked the next morning about it.

Mr. Griffin.

Now on Saturday, do you recall what you did on Saturday the 23d?

Mrs. Cheek.

Sure can't, not right off.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you spend all day watching television?

Mrs. Cheek.

No; I didn't spend all day watching TV. I just happened to turn on the TV because Mr. Zmolik asked me to turn on the TV that day. I don't know what I was doing. I was probably cleaning the house, because I didn't have a maid.

Mr. Griffin.

I take it you were probably in and out?

Mrs. Cheek.

Yes; cleaning the apartment, and sometimes I even cleaned the apartments myself.

Mr. Griffin.

How about Sunday morning, the 24th, do you recall what you were doing the morning of the 24th?

Mrs. Cheek.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall when it was you first learned that Jack Ruby had shot Lee Oswald?

Mrs. Cheek.

No; I don't.

Mr. Griffin.

I want to hand you what I have marked "Dallas, Texas, 4-14-64, Bertha Cheek, Exhibit 5354."