Mr. Griffin.

Now, you indicated here also that on the last occasion that you saw Jack Ruby at the Carousel Club, that you spent several hours discussing this investment with him?

Mrs. Cheek.

I think I put down there two or three hours. About 2 until maybe 4:30, something like that.

Mr. Griffin.

Can't you give us any more idea about. what he had for this club, what kind of club it was going to be? You said you talked with the interior decorator?

Mrs. Cheek.

I let him talk.

Mr. Griffin.

What did he say?

Mrs. Cheek.

I don't remember all they said.

Mr. Griffin.

Can't you tell us some more about what he said? You were there for a couple of hours. He must have described----

Mrs. Cheek.

He talked to other people while I was there. He would go in and out of the office, and he would indicate to me he was talking long distance and talking to other people that come in his club. And then he would come back and talk some more.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he make any long distance telephone calls while you were there?

Mrs. Cheek.

Yes; but I don't know when he made them.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he hold these conversations in his office?

Mrs. Cheek.

He was in the office, and then in the club, and then he came a few minutes, and then I came on home.

Mr. Griffin.

Your best recollection is, it was from about 2 o'clock in the afternoon until about sometime after 4:00 that afternoon?

Mrs. Cheek.

I think so.

Mr. Griffin.

How did you happen to place the time? Anything significant?

Mrs. Cheek.

I think it was; I remember the time I was down there.

Mr. Griffin.

It was a 2 o'clock appointment?

Mrs. Cheek.

Yes. Around 2:00 or 2:30.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember how many long distance telephone calls he made?

Mrs. Cheek.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he talk to you about any of the business enterprises that he had?

Mrs. Cheek.

He told me about other businesses he had and how many he had been in, but I don't remember exactly. I just listened to him and I wasn't interested really in putting in $6,000 and him putting in $1,000, and I was just listening to the man talk and getting his ideas on a lot of things that he had in mind for clubs that he was talking about, and I didn't I wasn't really interested in what he did in the past or what clubs he was connected with. That is why I don't remember, you know.

Mr. Griffin.

You also indicated that you thought at first when you saw Lee Harvey Oswald's photograph on television, that you might have rented to him. What made you think that?

Mrs. Cheek.

I noticed a lot of people you can walk down the street or be introduced to a person and think I have met them before. Well, I was trying to remember back if I had ever seen the man before in Dallas.

Mr. Griffin.

Where did you think you might have seen him?

Mrs. Cheek.

I didn't know. Just like have you ever, you know, met a person and thought you had seen them before?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mrs. Cheek.

Well, that is the way I thought I was trying to remember where I had seen him before, and probably I had seen him so many times on TV that day until I thought maybe I had rented to him, and I thought if I had, I would look it up and turn it in.

Mr. Griffin.

Let me ask you this. Where were you when you first heard that President Kennedy had been shot?

Mrs. Cheek.

In my apartment at 3914 Swiss, Apartment 2.

Mr. Griffin.

What did you do that day?

Mrs. Cheek.

What did I do that day?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes, Ma'am.