Mr. Montgomery.

room, and somebody said, "How did he get down there?" And I don't know who said--well, I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

Didn't Lowery say at that point that he thought Ruby pushed a TV camera in?

Mr. Montgomery.

I couldn't swear that he did or didn't.

Mr. Griffin.

How long did you, Cutchshaw, Lowery, and Harrison remain in the homicide office?

Mr. Montgomery.

Didn't stay there but just a few minutes. I know when we left they were in there writing out a report of some kind. Didn't even ask them what they was writing. Sitting there writing something. Anyway, after I talked to them just as-- just a second, I went back to where Captain Fritz was, and that was when they sent us back upstairs to get Ruby.

Mr. Griffin.

Hall, Harrison, Cutchshaw and Lowery are all from the juvenile bureau?

Mr. Montgomery.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, did you talk with Dean at all on Sunday after the----

Mr. Montgomery.

Gene?

Mr. Griffin.

Dean. Officer Dean.

Mr. Montgomery.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you talk with Officer McMillon at all after the shooting?

Mr. Montgomery.

Seemed like I talked to him later on that night and told him about his hat.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall him telling you anything about how Ruby got in?

Mr. Montgomery.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, you knew that McMillon had been up there in this Jail cell with Ruby?

Mr. Montgomery.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you ask him anything about what Ruby was saying?

Mr. Montgomery.

No; I didn't.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he tell you anything about what Ruby was saying?

Mr. Montgomery.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

How about Archer? Did you see him?

Mr. Montgomery.

I don't believe I don't recall seeing Archer any more after they left the----

Mr. Griffin.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Montgomery.

Jail.

Mr. Griffin.

Okay. I want you to take the pen back from me.

Mr. Montgomery.

All right.

Mr. Griffin.

And I want to mark these two documents for identification.

Mr. Montgomery.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Griffin.

And I am going to mark this one Exhibit 5005, and the second one Exhibit 5006.

Mr. Montgomery.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Griffin.

And each of them, "Dallas, Texas, Detective Montgomery's deposition. 3-24-64". These are copies of FBI reports?

Mr. Montgomery.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Griffin.

And they represent, of course----

Mr. Montgomery.

Their interview with me.

Mr. Griffin.

Their interview with you; yes. Now, I am going to ask you to look at 5005. This purports to be an interview that was made on December 4, 1963.

Mr. Montgomery.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Griffin.

By James Kennedy and Leo Robertson of the----

Mr. Montgomery.

With who?

Mr. Griffin.

With you.

Mr. Montgomery.

I didn't talk to no two. I talked to one. I talked to Mr. Bookhout and One other agent is all. Let's see. Maybe I had better read this before I start talking. Let's see.

Mr. Griffin.

Look it over and tell me if you remember that interview?

Mr. Montgomery.

"Stated they had known Ruby for several years." That must mean "he."

Mr. Griffin.

Tell you what. Let's take a break here and let Officer Montgomery