Mr. Armstrong.

No--just the customers.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, when he pushed the customers out, as you explained a little while ago, he did that by grabbing their arms from the back and hustling them out, you mean he hustled them downstairs?

Mr. Armstrong.

Just to the door, the stairs door.

Mr. Hubert.

There was a door at the top of the stairs?

Mr. Armstrong.

There was a door at the top of the stairs, and he would automatically give somebody the sign to call the police.

Mr. Hurert.

Did you sleep in the club, ever?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, when I first started to work there when I was working the two jobs, I slept there so I could get up--I could sleep longer and be at Marilyn belt factory.

Mr. Hubert.

Do I understand from that, that after you left the factory, that you didn't sleep there any more?

Mr. Armstrong.

About 3 or 4 weeks---about 3 weeks I did.

Mr. Hubert.

What was Ruby's habit with respect to arriving at the club and going home, as far as you could observe?

Mr. Armstrong.

Unpredictable.

Mr. Hubert.

What?

Mr. Armstrong.

Unpredictable.

Mr. Hubert.

You mean he didn't have a special time for calling and running in and so forth?

Mr. Armstrong.

No; he didn't have any special time.

Mr. Hubert.

He did call about feeding the dogs every day, didn't he?

Mr. Armstrong.

He called.

Mr. Hubert.

That was pretty regular?

Mr. Armstrong.

I would always call his house when I got to the club about--anywhere from 12 to I o'clock.

Mr. Hubert.

You would call his house to check in with him?

Mr. Armstrong.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

Then what?

Mr. Armstrong.

And then he would probably call me three or four times that day to see if any calls had come in or if he said, "I'll be down to the club at a certain time and you can look for me; I'll be there about 2 o'clock or about 3:30."

Mr. Hubert.

IS it fair to say that this much was routine, when you got to the club around midday you would call him?

Mr. Armstrong.

That was a routine.

Mr. Hubert.

And it was also a routine that he would call you daily, three or four times a day, is it not?

Mr. Armstrong.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

Whether he came in or not--there was no routine about that?

Mr. Armstrong.

No---there was no routine about that. The most routine he had was about coming in the club at night.

Mr. Hubert.

Tell us about that.

Mr. Armstrong.

He was very seldom there at showtime that's 9 o'clock--but he would always be in by 10 o'clock. In other words, he would always come in between 9 and 10.

Mr. Hubert.

And how long did he stay?

Mr. Armstrong.

He would close up.

Mr. Hubert.

Which was what time?

Mr. Armstrong.

Around 1 o'clock, I would say. He would usually spend more time at the club after the show than anybody else. In other words, if I was closing up I would be right out; if he was closing up, he would walk around and he would look for this and he would check that and Just a waste of time-if he had anyone waiting on him they would probably be gone to sleep before he left.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you have to wait until all of this was finished before you left?

Mr. Armstrong.

No; I would always leave before the last show. In other words, I caught a 1 o'clock bus; I caught the 1 o'clock bus.

Mr. Hubert.

So you weren't there most of the time when the club closed?