Mr. Armstrong.

can't do the things like I want you to, get out." Well, there was an opinion there, because I know I was at the club more than he was and I had my eyes on more things than he did and if I did a thing I know was right, because I have already experienced it before, which he hadn't----

Mr. Hubert.

What are you speaking of there?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, I'm speaking of----

Mr. Hubert.

I'm talking about the things you say you had observed which he had not?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, about certain things--you see, we had a system going that one thing that happened was the setups were served in a glass. If you wanted cold water or whatever you wanted--were served in a glass with the ice, with about this much room for liquor [indicating].

Mr. Hubert.

By "this much room" you are talking about 2 inches?

Mr. Armstrong.

No; about an inch and a quarter.

Mr. Hubert.

All right.

Mr. Armstrong.

And some customers comes in there quite often and if one of the waitresses says, "Andrew, this is for so and so---Mr. so and so, and he wants his drink--he wants his setup filled so and so, in other words, about a quarter of an inch or an inch from the top, I would do it that way, because I am trying to satisfy the customer and if Jack happened to walk to the bar and see it that way, he would get all riled up because that's Coca Cola he could be saving, and I never would go through the procedure of explaining it to him--why I filled it up that way.

Mr. Hubert.

Whet you are saying, I think, is-that you had more of an opportunity to observe the likes and dislikes of the customers than he did?

Mr. Armstrong.

Than he did.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ever see him get angry and actually use physical violence respecting any patron or anybody at all?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, I have seen him grab a couple of men in the club and throw them out when they was due to leave when he asked them to.

Mr. Hubert.

And when you say "throw them out," would you explain what physical activity was involved?

Mr. Armstrong.

No more than grabbing a guy and locking him behind his arm, you know, catching him through the arms this way [indicating], from behind.

Mr. Hubert.

And hustling him out?

Mr. Armstrong.

And hustling him out.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ever see him strike anybody?

Mr. Armstrong.

I never saw him strike anybody. Of course, it was said to be a couple of times he did strike someone.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember an occasion when a taxicab driver came in there looking for someone?

Mr. Armstrong.

I wasn't working there then.

Mr. Hubert.

You have heard about that occasion?

Mr. Armstrong.

I read about it.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you ever hear him threaten to throw any of the girls or anybody down the stairs of the club?

Mr. Armstrong.

A couple of times, I believe, I have heard him threaten to throw even a girl down the stairs.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, you distinctly remember the incident about the girl, don't you?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, the one I remember was Diane.

Mr. Hubert.

What happened about that?

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, Jack always said that Diane bugged him and I said we couldn't afford to lose her because she was a good waitress--she made the club money and I would say he had told Diane that she had 2 weeks' notice every other night for a whole year--they just didn't get along.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, get to the point about threatening to throw her downstairs.

Mr. Armstrong.

Well, he had threatened to throw her down the stairs for some reason or other--I don't recall.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he start to do it?

Mr. Armstrong.

He never put his hands on her--he didn't touch her.

Mr. Hubert.

You never saw him put anybody out by the stair route?