Mr. Walker.

No; I did not.

Mr. Hubert.

When did you first see a man that you now know to be Jack Ruby, if you did see such a man?

Mr. Walker.

I did see him, and I would say it was sometime after 10:30 in the morning that Oswald was shot.

Mr. Hubert.

That is to say, of the 24th?

Mr. Walker.

Let's see; yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Now you didn't know him at the time you saw him?

Mr. Walker.

No; I did not.

Mr. Hubert.

Would you state for the record just how you came to see this person?

Mr. Walker.

I was sitting in the truck at the audio board. We were waiting for Oswald to be brought down. The press had been told he would not be transferred until after 10:30 in the morning. That is the only thing I can tie the time down to, because we were on a standby basis waiting for Oswald to be moved, and Ruby came to the window of the truck and asked, "Has he been brought down yet?" He was standing on the sidewalk.

Mr. Hubert.

You didn't know him to be Ruby at that time?

Mr. Walker.

No; I did not.

Mr. Hubert.

Can you tell us how he was dressed?

Mr. Walker.

No; I can't. All I could see was his face. It is a very small window. We have curtains, and I think it was one corner unsnapped.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he have a hat on?

Mr. Walker.

I don't know. He came to the window twice.

Mr. Hubert.

How far apart were the two times?

Mr. Walker.

I do not know. It was after 10:30.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you think he could have come to the window earlier than 10:30?

Mr. Walker.

I don't know. I don't believe at the time I saw him at the window, well, I am almost sure it was after 10:30, because I know I was sitting there. We were on a standby basis and waiting, and he did not mention Oswald's name, that I can remember.
It was, he just said, "Has he been brought down yet?" And everybody knew who he was talking about, or I did.

Mr. Hubert.

Now have you seen Ruby since?

Mr. Walker.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

How many times, do you suppose?

Mr. Walker.

I don't know. It was over--I was a witness during the trial. I saw him before I was a witness, and I saw them bring him into the courtroom one morning.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, all the times you saw him were in connection with your function as a TV man covering the trial?

Mr. Walker.

No, sir; I was asked by the district attorney's office to go look at Jack Ruby through the door of the courtroom prior to being a witness, to make sure that he was the same man that I saw come to the truck And then I saw him while I was a witness.

Mr. Hubert.

When you did look through the door at the district attorney's request and saw Jack Ruby, what opinion did you reach?

Mr. Walker.

I knew it was the same man.

Mr. Hubert.

And you subsequently saw him in the court when you testified?

Mr. Walker.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Are you willing to say that the same man who was Jack Ruby in the courtroom was the man whom you described as coming up to the window?

Mr. Walker.

That was the same thing I told the Dallas district attorney, that the only reason I remember Jack Ruby is because within minutes after the shooting we had mug shots of Ruby on camera from the third floor of the city hall. And if it hadn't been for those mug shots being in such a close time after he came to the window, I probably would never have remembered seeing him.

Mr. Hubert.

Would. you tell us the mental process you went through in relating the face at the window to the mug shots?