Mr. Strong.

her that it was there and that she had informed her that she would call at the office for the money.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you get this information from that telephone operator?

Mr. Strong.

No; but it was on--it was given directly to me and I just recorded it on the form.

Mr. Hubert.

So that when this document came into your possession you knew from the numerals, or letters, "WC", that there would be a call?

Mr. Strong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

What is this?

Mr. Strong.

That is the initial JMS, and California driver's license California--Calif--driver's license, BR, abbreviations.

Mr. Hubert.

Was that the identification on the driver's license?

Mr. Strong.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

I show you on Exhibit 5121, stamped on an angle right below the word "Union," in large letters what appears to be another stamp of time which is not quite clear to me. It seems to say, 1963, November 24th, and then something in parentheses, and 60 something. Can you tell us what that means?

Mr. Strong.

Yes; the 26 in parentheses is the digit time that the operator completed the transmission of the message in Dallas one day--the filing time on the application will show 12:26, that the time the operator completed sending it. This 1:04 p.m. is the time that the money order actually reached the main floor after the operator on the third floor released it. We stamp it again when it comes down again from the operating room--the money order department, and that was what the 1:04 p.m. means, actually received the money.

Mr. Hubert.

What is the parentheses?

Mr. Strong.

I say, the digit number when the operator in Dallas completed sending it. In other words, here the message was filed at 11:17 a.m., sent back to the traffic department and the operator put her stamp on it, and when it is completed then she puts the 2:06 in digits indicating that the transaction was completed now, which would have been 11:26 I assume.

Mr. Hubert.

That is to say that is when the telegram got back to Dallas?

Mr. Strong.

That is when it left Dallas.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, it would not have left Dallas on November 26.

Mr. Strong.

No; this is the digited time.
In other words, either 11:26 a.m., or 12:26 p.m. indicating that the operator had completed the transaction at that time.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. Now, I show you another document which has been identified as Exhibit 5120, and asked you what this document represents?

Mr. Strong.

On certain money orders when the party is coming into the office to receive payment we make up what we call a receipt form. That, you will notice, is a money order receipt form with my initials, J. M. S., and D. L. L., and No. 4, the wire number out of Dallas.

Mr. Hubert.

Does this conform with the number on Exhibit No. 5121?

Mr. Strong.

Yes, the same number.

Mr. Hubert.

I see.

Mr. Strong.

And then, of course, the dates and the sender's name, the office from which the money order came. The date, the amount and the payee's name.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, who typed that out?

Mr. Strong.

I did.

Mr. Hubert.

On Exhibit 5120?

Mr. Strong.

Yes, I typed all of this.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, I see a signature there which purports to be that of Karen Bennett. Who signed----

Mr. Strong.

Karen Bennett supposedly is the one who came in and presented the California driver's license.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, you are referring to the figures on Exhibit No. 5120, is that right?

Mr. Strong.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did she sign that in your presence?

Mr. Strong.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Husert.

And I think you have already testified that from the time stamp