Mr. Strong.

Yes, I asked her for identification and she presented her California driver's license No. 768114, and description, black hair, blue eyes, height 5 feet 2. Weight 105.

Mr. Hubert.

I notice that those figures that you have just read off appear on the face of that document, is that correct?

Mr. Strong.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

In whose handwriting are those figures written?

Mr. Strong.

Mine. I wrote it.

Mr. Hubert.

What is the significance of a time stamp, apparently, reading as follows: "1963, November 24th, p.m. 12:54."

Mr. Strong.

After Karen Bennett had signed the receipt for the money and I handed her the $25, I put this under the time stamp and stamped the time the transaction was completed.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, I think there you have reference to the other stamped time as--reading as follows:
"1963, November 24th, p.m. 3:25"?

Mr. Strong.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

But, I----

Mr. Strong.

I'm sorry.

Mr. Hubert.

I asked you about the 12:54.

Mr. Strong.

I'm sorry, that is the time it was received in our traffic department located on the third floor of the building at Third and Main.

Mr. Hubert.

How is that time stamped?

Mr. Strong.

By a time stamp the same as we have in all the offices.

Mr. Hubert.

Is that one of those timeclocks that the Western Union----

Mr. Strong.

Yes, sir; it is.

Mr. Hubert.

To your knowledge, is that synchronized to national time?

Mr. Strong.

I am not too certain of that, because they can be set rather easily with a key, and they have it is, I believe, an independent unit. Now, it might be synchronized as a group, but I don't believe with a master clock.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, are you sure of that?

Mr. Strong.

No, sir; I am not--I am not too positive of it, yet, it could be very well be tied into the master circuit and synchronized the same as the clocks are.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know of any clocks that are used in the Fort Worth office that are not synchronized into the national circuit?

Mr. Strong.

You are speaking of time stamps? No, no; they are all on the same circuit.

Mr. Hubert.

Would it be your opinion that all the time stamps on this Exhibit 5121 were stamped by machines that are synchronized to the national circuit?

Mr. Strong.

Yes, sir; I believe that is true.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, I think you have already testified that the other time stamp on here, to wit: "3:25 p.m., November 24th," indicates the time that the money was actually delivered, is that correct?

Mr. Strong.

Yes, as soon as I had paid her the money I turned that immediately and stamped that on the clock.

Mr. Hubert.

So that the time of delivery of the money and time of stamping are almost identical?

Mr. Strong.

Yes, but a few seconds intervening.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you have an independent recollection of this transaction, Mr. Strong?

Mr. Strong.

Nothing that was outstanding, sir, because as a party comes in inquiring for money and they have the money order, there is a routine form, almost has become routine, that we use to satisfy ourselves that the right party is receiving the money.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know whether the person made inquiry about this money at any time prior to the time that the money was actually----

Mr. Strong.

That is apparently true although I did not talk with her myself, but in the lower right-hand corner you will find the letters, "WC", which indicates will-call. That was placed there by one of our telephone operators who had answered her inquiry and gone to the file and searched this out and told