Mr. Griffin.

What did you do?

Mr. Montgomery.

I unlocked the door and go inside and locked the door behind you and--on that particular occasion, I believe the elevator was waiting on us.

Mr. Griffin.

What happened when you got down in the basement?

Mr. Montgomery.

Well, we got off the elevator and walked around in front of the booking desk there. You want me to show you?

Mr. Griffin.

Let me get a--I'm going to mark this "Dallas, Texas, March 24, Detective L. D. Montgomery's deposition. March 24, 1964, Exhibit 5004." Now, I want to show you what has been marked as Exhibit 5004, which is a diagram of the basement area of the Police and Courts Building. Would you want to explain to us what you did there? Let me give you this pen.

Mr. Montgomery.

This is, of course--it shows the jail elevator. This is the elevator we came down on.

Mr. Griffin.

Came down in the jail elevator.

Mr. Montgomery.

Uh-huh, and of course, we came on the elevator here and I was of the first out of the elevator, because I was last, one of the last on, so, of course, I just stepped back here to the back and waited for all of them to get out, and when they got out I took my position right in behind Oswald. Of course, we came around to the left here [indicating]. Around to this door here [indicating]. Out--went out into the----

Mr. Griffin.

Now, let me state for the record that you are indicating on the map that you walked around in front of the counter of the jail office.

Mr. Montgomery.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Griffin.

To the jail office doors which lead to the hallway just before you get to the ramps in the basement.

Mr. Montgomery.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Griffin.

Okay; what happened when you got to that door?

Mr. Montgomery.

When we got to the door, Captain Fritz told us to stop. He was going to check one more time the security.

Mr. Griffin.

Let me interrupt you here. Before you left the homicide bureau, did anybody notify you that the area was secured?

Mr. Montgomery.

The chief--well, they didn't notify--Captain Fritz told me that--told all of us that he had been advised that it was secure down there and they was ready for us to come down.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he tell you who told him that?

Mr. Montgomery.

No; he didn't say for sure.

Mr. Griffin.

Where was Chief Curry at the time that you people got that notice up in the homicide bureau, if you know?

Mr. Montgomery.

Now, I don't know whether--where he was at. He left there. He left our office.

Mr. Griffin.

How long before you got that notice did Chief Curry leave?

Mr. Montgomery.

How long before we got the notice did he leave?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Montgomery.

Oh, I would say probably 5 or 10 minutes, because I know after he left they went ahead and put the sweater and shirt on Oswald and handcuffed him and everything, so, I imagine at least 5 or 10 minutes.

Mr. Griffin.

When you approached the jail office door, what happened?

Mr. Montgomery.

Captain Fritz stepped out into this door leading out to the ramp, and, of course, I didn't--I could not hear who he was talking to or what he said, but just stepped back and told us, "Come on."

Mr. Griffin.

And then what happened?

Mr. Montgomery.

Then we walked out the door there to--Well, walked out to where well, where the shooting happened, and we had to stop, because our car wasn't in position.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you actually stop or did you slow up?

Mr. Montgomery.

No--well, we may have just slowed up, I guess. We just slowed up because it was only things like just there a second.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, as you slowed up, did you get a look at the news media?

Mr. Montgomery.

Didn't get much of a look at anything.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you able to tell where the TV cameras were located?