Mr. Hubert.

Did he seem to be walking fast, slow, medium?

Mr. Lane.

Just ordinary gait.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, I notice on Exhibit 5118, another time, which seems to be 1963, November 24, p.m., 12:26. What does that mean?

Mr. Lane.

That is the time that the money order was put into the wire in the upstairs office----

Mr. Hubert.

Well, explain what you do after the application is accepted, the money received, the change given back, the receipt given to the customer?

Mr. Lane.

I put it in a tube, suction tube that takes it directly upstairs to be transmitted.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you endorse anything on the application at that time?

Mr. Lane.

I endorse nothing. I have done all that before.

Mr. Hubert.

I see. "MOD,"----

Mr. Lane.

"MOD," is a transmission mark.

Mr. Hubert.

That is your handwriting?

Mr. Lane.

Yes, it is.

Mr. Hubert.

What is the significance?

Mr. Lane.

Money Order Department, Fort Worth from Money Order Department, Dallas.

Mr. Hubert.

That is done before it is stamped by the clock?

Mr. Lane.

Before it is stamped.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, once you put it in the tube, that is the end of it, as far as you are concerned?

Mr. Lane.

Right.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know from your experience in your 10 or 12 years employment with Western Union what happens when it gets upstairs?

Mr. Lane.

Yes, sir; it is removed from the tube, put on a sending position, and sent. This day it was different because of the press. Press releases coming in immediately, and many of them, so, it was delayed quite a while. Ordinarily, it is about 20 minutes from here to Fort Worth.

Mr. Hubert.

But, that stamp on 5118, is the Dallas time of----

Mr. Lane.

Time it was actually transmitted here in Dallas.

Mr. Hubert.

Does that work on the same clock system that you were speaking of before?

Mr. Lane.

A different machine, but synchronized, by the same master clock.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, you mentioned something about a lot of press releases coming in which delayed the message a little bit. Those press releases were being handled upstairs, were they?

Mr. Lane.

Most of them were.

Mr. Hubert.

Were any being handled downstairs?

Mr. Lane.

Well, reporters, running in there with scribbled notes.

Mr. Hubert.

What I am trying to get at, do you recall whether any reporters came in with any kind of notes, or saying anything during the time that Jack Ruby was there, which would have indicated to Ruby that the transfer of Oswald was imminent?

Mr. Lane.

Oh, no. There was, as I recall--like I say, I don't always notice who comes in that office, because it is a stopping place for everyone, but as I remember, my previous customer, before Jack Ruby, turned around and left after the transaction Ruby came up and, was right there. He just handed me the money order, apparently he had come in while I was waiting on the other customer, because I believe there were only the two in the office.

Mr. Hubert.

After the first customer left, there was only you and Ruby at the counter?

Mr. Lane.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

You don't remember anybody coming in?

Mr. Lane.

Well, there was nobody between that time.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, do you remember anybody coming in while Ruby was there indicating in any way whatsoever that the transfer of Oswald was going to happen very shortly?

Mr. Lane.

Oh, no, no.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you aware at any time between 10:30 and 11:20 that an