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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XIII - Page 219« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Karen Bennett Carlin)

Mr. Hubert.
But you haven't talked to Jack Ruby since you talked to him on the phone on Sunday the 24th?
Mrs. Carlin.
I can't say the last time I talked to him.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you know Billy DeMar?
Mrs. Carlin.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
He was one of the Emcee's there?
Mrs. Carlin.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Of course, you have heard the rumors that he is supposed to have said that he had seen Oswald in the club prior to the shooting of the President?
Mrs. Carlin.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you see pictures of Oswald afterward?
Mrs. Carlin.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you ever see anybody who looked like that man in the Carousel?
Mrs. Carlin.
Well, just like I told the FBI, I have seen someone that looked like him. Whether it was him or whether I have seen him, he could favor anybody, you know. I have seen the face, something that looked, someone that looked like him, and I am not going to say it was in the club or where it was at, but I have seen someone that looked like him.
Mr. Hubert.
Of course, you didn't know Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mrs. Carlin.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
If you get tired, let me know, and we will stop. Let me ask you some concluding questions and we will take a little recess and I will gather my thoughts and see if we have anything more. Have you been interviewed by any member of the Commission's staff prior to today?
Mrs. Carlin.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
Mrs. Carlin, I have in my hand a document consisting of two pages which purport to be a copy of a report of an interview of you by Special FBI Agents Peggs and Zimmerman on November 26, 1963, which for the purpose of identification I am marking as follows: Fort Worth, Texas, April 15, 1964, Exhibit 5318, Deposition of Karen B. Carlin. Do you spell your name with a "K" or "C"?
Mrs. Carlin.
K-a-r-e-n C-a-r-l-i-n.
Mr. Hubert.
Your first name is spelled with a "K", but your last name is spelled with a "C"?
Mrs. Carlin.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
And I am signing my name below that, for the purpose of identifi-tion. On the second page thereof, in the lower right-hand corner I am placing my initials. Mrs. Carlin, I will ask you if you have had an opportunity, with your attorney, Mr. Jackson, to read this statement?
Mrs. Carlin.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Is this statement a fair statement of the interview that you had with the FBI agents?
Mrs. Carlin.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you see anything in it, and I will ask your attorney to assist you, since he helped you to read it and went over it, do you see anything that needs to be changed, adjusted, or modified?
Mrs. Carlin.
Yes; the part where it says, "Just for rent."
Mr. Hubert.
You are referring to a sentence in the third paragraph about the middle of that paragraph which reads as follows, to w.it: "She called Ruby again on Sunday, November 24, 1963, at 10 or 10:30 a.m. as she needed money to pay her rent." Now that is the sentence that you are referring to, is that correct?
Mrs. Carlin.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
What comment do you wish to make about it?
Mrs. Carlin.
Well, I didn't ask him for just money for the rent. It was for groceries also.
Mr. Hubert.
You actually mentioned to him that it was for groceries as well as for rent?
Mrs. Carlin.
Yes.
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