Mr. Leavelle.

here. It would probably be between 10:30 and 11, probably an hour off of that. However, there is a transfer sign out which would show the correct time.

Mr. Hubert.

That is what you call a--"tempo"?

Mr. Leavelle.

The "tempo," yes, which shows the correct time.

Mr. Hubert.

Anyway, you were with Oswald at all times from the time of the "tempo," until he was actually shot?

Mr. Leavelle.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And any interviewing that happened in that period you were present at?

Mr. Leavelle.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

So that you want to modify Exhibit 5089, in the sentence that I read in that respect?

Mr. Leavelle.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know Jack Ruby, sir?

Mr. Leavelle.

Yes, I had known him. I have I had previously stated I met him back in 1951, or thereabouts, when I was working the area that his Silver Spur was located in on South Ervay, and became acquainted with him.

Mr. Hubert.

I understand that some time in 1963, you received an anonymous call that there was going to be a hijacking of his club. What does that mean, a "hijacking"?

Mr. Leavelle.

That means that someone is going to use a pistol and take the money from the cashier, or whoever had custody of it.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, a robbery, or burglary?

Mr. Leavelle.

Armed robbery is what it amounts to.

Mr. Hubert.

So, in order to guard against that, you and a fellow officer went down to----

Mr. Leavelle.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Down to the club and stayed there watching for it?

Mr. Leavelle.

We stayed there until closing time. I think they stopped the people from coming in, I believe.

Mr. Hubert.

You did not tell Ruby what was going on?

Mr. Leavelle.

Yes; we told--of course, Ruby was not there. This was the Carousel Club on Oak Lawn, which was operated by his sister, Eva Grant, and we told her what the situation was, and she gave us a--use of a booth near the door where we could get there in the booth and observe anyone coming in or out.

Mr. Hubert.

That was the Vegas Club on Ervay?

Mr. Leavelle.

No, sir; on Oak Lawn. That is the Carousel on Commerce Street.

Mr. Hubert.

The Silver Spur?

Mr. Leavelle.

The Silver Spur, it has long since been out of existence.

Mr. Hubert.

So, you told his sister what the situation was?

Mr. Leavelle.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And Ruby came in later?

Mr. Leavelle.

He came in just about closing time, and she probably had called him, because he already knew that we were out here. Of course, I just am assuming she had probably already called him. He didn't seem particular perturbed about it at that time.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you recognize Ruby right away when he came out of the crowd?

Mr. Leavelle.

I recognized him as someone that I knew, but I was unable to call his name.

Mr. Hubert.

Just describe in your own words how the whole thing happened, what you saw from the time you left the jail door?

Mr. Leavelle.

From the time we left the jail door?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes; push it back a little further. From the time you left the jail cell.

Mr. Leavelle.

All right, when we left the jail cell, we proceeded down to the booking desk there, up to the door leading out into the basement, and I purposely told Mr. Graves to hold it a minute while Captain Fritz checked the area outside. I don't know why I did that, because we had not made any plans to do so, but I said, "Let's hold it a minute and let him see if everything