Mr. Frazier.

some man to the effect that a group of men, I believe he indicated they had 100 or 200, I don't recall the exact number, were going to attempt to kill Oswald that day sometime. That he didn't want the FBI, Dallas Police Department or the sheriff's office injured in any way. That was the reason for the call. So, Mr. Newsom called me and related that story to me.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you in charge of the police department at the time?

Mr. Frazier.

I was in charge of the patrol section.

Mr. Hubert.

Patrol section?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

What other senior officers were on duty?

Mr. Frazier.

I guess I was the senior on any division at that morning; yes sir.

Mr. Hubert.

As I understand it, Chief Curry was not there, Chief Batchelor was not there.

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir..

Mr. Hubert.

Who is your immediate superior?

Mr. Frazier.

Fisher. He was not there.

Mr. Hubert.

You, in fact, were the ranking officer ?

Mr. Frazier.

On duty at that time; yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you aware of that? I mean, are you made aware of that?

Mr. Frazier.

Oh, yes, sir; yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

How is it done?

Mr. Frazier.

Well, Just the fact that the officers under--who rank under you are there, and there is nobody of equal rank or higher present in the entire police department, it reverts to you.

Mr. Hubert.

The highest in rank is in charge of the whole operation?

Mr. Frazier.

It is.

Mr. Hubert.

So, if someone had asked for who was in--if Newsom had asked top man in charge, you were that man, that day?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you heard any of that news of that sort from another source?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know a man by the name of Deputy Cox, or Coy in the sheriffs--

Mr. Frazier.

I talked to that man later on in the morning after Mr. Newsom called me. But I don't know the name, whether it was Coy, or Cox, but he indicated that Sheriff Decker wanted to talk to Chief Curry in regards to moving Oswald, so, I, in turn then attempted to contact Chief Curry by telephone and his line was busy.

Mr. Hubert.

That was about what time?

Mr. Frazier.

I don't know. 5:45, 6 o'clock, somewhere along there. Then I tried for some 10 or 15 minutes to get his line, and it was busy, so, I asked the operator to check into it. She came back and said the line was out of order, so, I in turn, was preparing to send a squad by the chief's home and tell him of the information and that Decker wanted him to call him and Captain Talbert relieved me around 6 or 6:15. I give him the information and he said he sent a squad later and told the chief about it.

Mr. Hubert.

I think earlier you had called Captain Fritz, hadn't you?

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, I called Captain Fritz once or twice in an effort to see if they were handling it or if the chief was handling it, or if homicide Captain Fritz was handling it. Since he is the captain in charge of that particular bureau, so, naturally I called him first.

Mr. Hubert.

That was when you got the message from Newsom ?

Mr. Frazier.

A little while later; yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

What did he say about it?

Mr. Frazier.

He said I should talk to Chief Curry, that he was handling the transfer.

Mr. Hubert.

That Chief Curry

Mr. Frazier.

Yes, sir; not him.