Mr. Dean.

All right.

Mr. Griffin.

Are there any additions or corrections you wanted to make to that?

Mr. Dean.

No, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Put a date by that, by your signature also, if you will [indicating].

Mr. Dean.

All right.

Mr. Griffin.

And let me hand you 5010, and ask you to sign that and date it [indicating].

Mr. Dean.

It's been signed-of course, this is a Xerox copy- Do you want me

to go ahead and sign it again?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Dean.

All right [indicating].

Mr. Griffin.

Would you take this one here, Exhibit 5008, and would you sign that and date it [indicating] ?

Mr. Dean.

Where [indicating]?

Mr. Griffin.

On the front page, I think probably is just as well [indicating]. Off the record.
(Discussion off the record. )

Mr. Griffin.

Sergeant, you and I have been talking here off the record for--I don't have a watch, but I would guess for 15 or 20 minutes, with respect to other matters, and you indicated to me just before we brought the court reporter in, that you had obtained some information that apparently had not-been previously made available to the Commission, and I wonder if you could tell us what that is?

Mr. Dean.

It was relative to a telephone call that I received last night at about 2 o'clock in the morning. I didn't mark the time.

Mr. Griffin.

Where were you ?

Mr. Dean.

At city hall. In the office there. The city hall operator had called me and told me that she had a man, or an operator on the line from Victoria, British Columbia, in Canada, and that she had been--this operator had told her she had been talking to a .man in Victoria about some films that he had of the assassination, and asked me did I want to take the call, and it wasn't--it was a collect call, and the operator said that she couldn't unless it was by my authorization, but she did tell me she heard this man talk enough that she believed he was serious and had something that possibly could be used by the Warren Commission. And, of course, I heard some of the conversation, and the man sounded rational, and the operator in Victoria, her name was Bernice Williamson, she is the night supervisor of the B.C. Telephone Company, said that she had talked to this man long enough that she thought he probably had something. And so I accepted the call. This man's name was Ralph Simpson. He was calling from 384-3780, and he told me that he had been standing on the southern part of the plaza when the assassination took place, and he had a wide scope movie camera that he believed 'would have taken in the building and the motorcade at the time the shots were fired; that he had talked it over with his attorney--and the name of the attorney was Batter [spelling] B-a-t-t- e-r, is what I got, and that Batter advised him to call someone here, but not the Warren Commission. And he asked me--when I accepted the call, he asked me what I would suggest, and I told him that first he should mail them to the Warren Commission. And then he asked me had I been to the Warren Commission. He recognized my name, that I had been testifying, and I said, "Yes; and I am scheduled to go back tomorrow night." And he said, "Well, I will send the films to you. They haven't been--". Well, he said they hadn't been developed, and he wasn't going to have them developed, that he would send them to me airmail. This was about 2 o'clock in the night--on the morning of the 24th, this morning [indicating].

Mr. Griffin.

All right. You have in front of you, Sergeant, a piece of paper?

Mr. Dean.

Yes, sir; what I took notes

Mr. Griffin.

Are those your original notes?

Mr. Dean.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Can I mark that for identification ?

Mr. Dean.

Yes, sir.