Mr. Dean.

Captain Fritz stated that he didn't think that Chief Curry wanted him moved during the night, that it was--he would be moved some time this day, that day, rather than in the night. It would be this day. That's where I got it that he was to be moved on the 24th.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, I take it that this was sort of changing of the guard at this point, and Frazier was going off duty and he was sort of passing on the word to Talbert?

Mr. Dean.

Right.

Mr. Griffin.

What did Talbert say in response to that information?

Mr. Dean.

I don't remember. The thing that I got, or impression that I got, was that they were just waiting for Chief Curry to say to move him, until they had proper authorization to move him, from our department rather than from the sheriff.

Mr. Griffin.

Was Rio Pierce present at that time?

Mr. Dean.

I think that he was.

Mr. Griffin.

And it is my understanding of this situation that you had there at that time is Captain Talbert, Lieutenant Pierce and the sergeants that were all under them, kind of a general briefing?

Mr. Dean.

That's correct.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, did Talbert then discuss this matter with you people who were on his shift?

Mr. Dean.

Not at this time. We went back downstairs to the basement to the whole detail. This is to assign the patrolmen out on their tour of duty, to brief them of the new orders, if there had been any, and generally to get the men out in the field in the squad cars. This happens at 7 o'clock.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, did you send all the men out that you normally would send out?

Mr. Dean.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

At that time?

Mr. Dean.

Yes, sir; with some few that we would use, the ones of which 1 can't recall. I imagine it would have been equivalent to three or four men that we would have kept in the city hall itself.

Mr. Griffin.

At that time did you have any thought of how you would assemble the necessary men to handle the transfer?

Mr. Dean.

No, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, after you had this initial meeting with Talbert, what did you do?

Mr. Dean.

Now, you are referring to after the detail ?

Mr. Griffin.

After you assigned these men, and what you called the general orders?

Mr. Dean.

We went back to the second floor, back to Captain Talbert's office, which is the general offices for the patrol division.

Mr. Griffin.

What happened up there?

Mr. Dean.

Well, I don't remember anything specific until about--I, myself, went to the third floor to familiarize myself with the happenings, about the news cameramen and just to get an idea of what was going on and who was to be present, such as that, because I had been off. This was my first day back since in a week, in fact. I had been on a few days vacation to go hunting.

Mr. Griffin.

At the time you went up to the third floor, did you have any idea as to what your general responsibilities were going to be for the day?

Mr. Dean.

No, sir; not at that time.

Mr. Griffin.

I think I am misleading you. First of all, you have some general responsibility, standard responsibilities that you have every day?

Mr. Dean.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

What are those particular responsibilities?

Mr. Dean.

Well, I am assigned to a zone area that has a group of 6 squads that work for me, equivalent to 15 men. Mr. GRIFFIN. What zone is that?

Mr. Dean.

No. 110. It's in the eastern portion of Dallas.

Mr. Griffin.

Is that the Love Field area?

Mr. Dean.

No, sir; this is the Love Field area is north Dallas. I am in the eastern portion of Dallas.