Mr. Hubert.

Is there anything that causes you to fix that precisely?

Mr. Clardy.

After just thinking, and all the other officers up in the bureau sure that it was closer to 11 than it was to 10, I don't know whether I looked at my watch or whether--on a previous deal, or where I got the 10 o'clock in my mind.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, it is apparent then that you did have 10 o'clock in your mind until when speaking to others you became convinced that you must be wrong and the 11 o'clock is closer to it, is that correct?

Mr. Clardy.

Yes, sir; I am sure it was that. I wasn't any--wasn't in the basement more than 30 minutes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did anyone speak to you and ask you to correct your statement from 10 o'clock to 11 o'clock?

Mr. Clardy.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

You are doing that on your own volition?

Mr. Clardy.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

It is because you have become convinced that you are wrong.

Mr. Clardy.

I was wrong on the time, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

You were wrong?

Mr. Clardy.

That 10 o'clock is definitely wrong on time.

Mr. Hubert.

And you are, right now telling us that you are quite certain that it was?

Mr. Clardy.

That it was closer to 11 o'clock than it was to 10.

Mr. Hubert.

That it was closer to 11 than 10. And that the previous statement about 10 o'clock is simply wrong?

Mr. Clardy.

Simply wrong; yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

No one has asked you to change?

Mr. Clardy.

No, sir. That wrong time was my fault, and nobody else's.

Mr. Hubert.

Did anyone speak to you about the wrong time?

Mr. Clardy.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Haven't done so to this time?

Mr. Clardy.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, I understand that you were off duty on November 22?

Mr. Clardy.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

And that you did not participate in reference to the investigation concerning the President's death on November 23 ?

Mr. Clardy.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know Jack Ruby ?

Mr. Clardy.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

How long had you known him, and in what way?

Mr. Clardy.

I had known him approximately in the neighborhood of 8 or 9 years.

Mr. Hubert.

In what way ? How did you come in contact with him?

Mr. Clardy.

To the best of my recollection I met him when I went into his place of business that he owned on South Ervay in connection with work, when I was working as a patrolman. I say I met him. I didn't meet him at that time. I knew him, knew who he was. I--first time I was ever introduced to him, shook hands with him, was at--after I went into criminal investigation possibly in the early part of 1956. I was looking for someone in connection with an auto theft in the vicinity of one of the places that he owned and he had an interest in the Vegas Club. I'm not sure who I was with, or who introduced----

Mr. Hubert.

Could you speak a little louder, please ?

Mr. Clardy.

I am not sure who I was with, or who introduced me to him at that time. Then approximately---maybe 6 or 8 months before this come up he stopped me downtown one day and started telling me about a traffic ticket he got. Other than that, I had seen him at a distance and had spoke to him. I had seen him quite frequently when I was working late nights where the B and B Club is, that is on Oak Lawn, close to Lemmon. There is one place of business between the Vegas Club and the B and B, and we would go in there quite frequently when we were working late nights, and I have seen him in there on several occasions.