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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XII - Page 405« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Barnard S. Clardy)

Mr. Clardy.
On my statement, that the approximate time where I went down was approximately 11 instead of 10, and the approximate time that we brought Mr. Jack Ruby from the Jail to Captain Fritz' office was approximately 3:30, instead of 2:30.
Mr. Hubert.
Those corrections you wish to make on the document marked 5061 ?
Mr. Clardy.
5061.
Mr. Hubert.
As I understood it, there were two time Corrections that you think should be made, is that correct ?
Mr. Clardy.
On that document alone, sir. And this was approximately closer to 11 a.m., on this other document.
Mr. Hubert.
Let's see. You wish to make a correction as to the time with reference to Clardy Exhibit No. 5061, to wit, your letter to Chief Curry on November 27th and----
Mr. Clardy.
And on that also. It was approximately 3:30 instead of 2:30.
Mr. Hubert.
Two corrections here.
Mr. Clardy.
Yes, sir; two corrections on that.
Mr. Hubert.
And in the second paragraph of that letter where you name the time as 10 a.m.
Mr. Clardy.
Approximately; yes.
Mr. Hubert.
As the time at which Lieutenant Smart advised you and other officers to report to the jail office. You now say the time should have been what?
Mr. Clardy.
Should have been 11 a.m.
Mr. Hubert.
Should have been 11 a.m. Do you have another time correction to make?.
Mr. Clardy.
Time on the last paragraph there was the time that we brought the prisoner out, Mr. Ruby, to Captain Fritz' office.
Mr. Hubert.
It reads now as "2:30 p.m."?
Mr. Clardy.
It reads 2:30. It should have been approximately 3:30 p.m.
Mr. Hubert.
Should have been 3:30 instead of 2:30. Both of those corrections being as to Clardy Exhibit No. 5061. Did I understand that you might have a correction as to Clardy Exhibit No. 5062 ?
Mr. Clardy.
Clardy Exhibit No. 5062. This. The second paragraph should have been approximately 11 a.m. instead of 10 a.m.
Mr.-HUBERT. Now, your best recollection is that the time that Lieutenant Smart advised you and other officers to go to the city jail office was 11 o'clock rather than 10 o'clock ?
Mr. Clardy.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Have you anything you can tell us that would explain that error in time that you made?
Mr. Clardy.
No, sir; I don't.
Mr. Hubert.
You see, the point I am making is, that on November 27, you stated 10 a.m., apparently in your letter. Then--well, prior to that, on November 25, when you were interviewed by the FBI you told them at 10 o'clock, and do you think that it is simply a mistake in time, or
Mr. Clardy.
Well, it is a mistake in time on me--- on the on my first report I was under the impression that I told them 11 a.m., which--now, whether I did or not, I don't know, sir, on my first interview.
Mr. Hubert.
Let me call your attention to the fact that on Document 5063, which is the interview on December 3, you also mentioned 10 a.m., apparently. All I am trying to do, Detective Clardy, is to find out why it is that you think it is 11 o'clock now, whereas before on three separate occasions you thought it was 10.
Mr. Clardy.
Sir, I thought I told the agent that I talked to that it was possibly closer to 11 than it was to 10, when ! talked to him. To be----just preactly [sic] what time I went down there, I am just judging.
Mr. Hubert.
In any case, your present recollection is definitely
Mr. Clardy.
That it would have been closer to 11 than it was to 10.
Mr. Hubert.
All right.
Mr. Clardy.
I am definitely sure in my own mind that it was sometime after 10:30.
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