Mr. Hubert.

Where do you reside?

Mr. Archer.

2035 San Francisco, Dallas, Tex.

Mr. Hubert.

What is your occupation?

Mr. Archer.

I am police officer for the city of Dallas.

Mr. Hubert.

How long have you been on the police force of the city of Dallas?

Mr. Archer.

Ten years, May 31.

Mr. Hubert.

What particular duty or function do you have with the Police department?

Mr. Archer.

I am a detective assigned to auto theft bureau.

Mr. Hubert.

Who is your immediate superior?

Mr. Archer.

My immediate superior would be Lieutenant Smart, and then Capt. J. C. Nichols, who is the head of our bureau.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you have the same position and rank and duties and occupation during the period of November 22 to 24, 1963 ?

Mr. Archer.

Yes; I did.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, where were you stationed when you first came on duty on November 24, 1963?

Mr. Archer.

On November 24, I reported for duty at 7 a.m, at the auto theft bureau, which is my normal procedure when I report for work.

Mr. Hubert.

Then did you go about performing your regular duties in the auto theft bureau, or were you assigned extra and other duties ?

Mr. Archer.

Well, at the beginning of the morning I was performing my regular duties and carrying out my assignments and making my general investigations.

Mr. Hubert.

That is in connection with routine auto thefts ?

Mr. Archer.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you taken from that routine of duties?

Mr. Archer.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

By whom, and at what time?

Mr. Archer.

As I recall, and as near as I can recall, and this is only approximate, about 8:40 a.m., Lieutenant Smart came into our bureau and advised us that Chief Stevenson had asked us to stand by to remain in that bureau, to await further orders, which we did. And I continued carrying on what work I could there in the office concerning my reports.

Mr. Hubert.

So that the first order you got was to remain where you were, not move out, and stand by?

Mr. Archer.

Not to leave, that's right, and to be there.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. What happened after that?

Mr. Archer.

Well, as near as I can remember we did stay in the in the . bureau, or at least I did until, oh, I would say approximately 10:50 a.m. And that is only an approximate time because I don't remember looking and seeing the exact time.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, what happened at that time?

Mr. Archer.

At that time, Lieutenant Smart came in and, of course, we had been aware that the subject, Oswald, would probably be transferred that day.

Mr. Hubert.

What made you aware of this?

Mr. Archer.

Well, for one thing, just the press itself, and quite a bit in the papers and all. We just had it in our minds that we would. Actually, nobody told me specifically that he would be, but like I say, it was in my mind. I just had that impression.

Mr. Hubert.

So, at approximately 10:50, you received orders from whom, you said?

Mr. Archer.

Lieutenant Smart.

Mr. Hubert.

To do what?

Mr. Archer.

He told us to follow him and to go to the basement, which we did. We left our office and walked to the elevators, got in the elevator and then proceeded into the basement.

Mr. Hubert.

Which elevator did you use?

Mr. Archer.

We used. the interior elevator, of which there are two moving from the basement to the fourth floor. It is generally inside the building.

Mr. Hubert.

The public elevator? Not the jail elevator?

Mr. Archer.

Oh, no, sir.