Mr. Hubert.

Do you know whether any instructions had been given to those officers ?

Mr. Curry.

I don't know of my knowledge, but I observed them checking the people who came in.

Mr. Hubert.

Whose responsibility would it have been to post those officers for the purpose of checking there?

Mr. Curry.

Usually the captain on duty in that building--that would have been Captain Talbert, I believe, but it could have been someone else. Had they observed the need for it, they could have issued orders to get someone else.

Mr. Hubert.

Obviously, someone must have posted two men there?

Mr. Curry.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Would you say you have in the department any standard operative procedures to cover a situation like that?

Mr. Curry.

Not exactly this type incident.

Mr. Hubert.

So, in any case, you observed that that was a security check going on ?

Mr. Curry.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Is the same thing approximately true about the group that was in the assembly room when Oswald was brought down ?

Mr. Curry.

Well, now, I don't know that they were all checked as they went into the assembly room.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you give any instructions about the security of Oswald there ?

Mr. Curry.

No; I Just told them to keep the newsmen--and I told the newsmen they would have to stay back inside the confines of the room and not approach the prisoner.

Mr. Hubert.

Let me put it this way--generally speaking, did you give any specific instructions regarding the security of Oswald, during that period we are talking about?

Mr. Curry.

No, not this period--no.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know what system of checking for identification was being used by the officers on the third floor guarding the elevator and staircase?

Mr. Curry.

I don't know of my own knowledge. I could see them checking the people to see whether they were up to do police business or whether they were newsmen trying to cover the incident. We were carrying on the normal business we would conduct, and this would bring a great many people to the third floor, relatives of prisoners, complainants, various people that would come to the other bureaus.

Mr. Hubert.

Normally, there would be no police checking those two elevators?

Mr. Curry.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

So that, I suppose it is fair to state, isn't it, that the main function of that check was to keep curiosity seekers out of the way?

Mr. Curry.

That's right--that's right.

Mr. Hubert.

And to check also to see if anybody had any legitimate business there ?

Mr. Curry.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, I think we can just continue on then.

Mr. Curry.

Well, after Oswald was arraigned, I went back to my office I went home a little while after that and that was, I believe, Saturday night.

Mr. Hubert.

No; that would be Friday night.

Mr. Curry.

Yes; Friday night, yes; and Saturday morning I came down to the office and I don't remember any particular outstanding incident that occurred during the day. It was a rather routine investigation--there continued the

investigation from the homicide division section on the murder of the President.

Mr. Hubert.

Was the crowd of newspapermen still there?

Mr. Curry.

Yes, sir; they stayed there.

Mr. Hubert.

Were the security measures you have described still in force?

Mr. Curry.

Yes, sir; they stayed.

Mr. Hubert.

It was neither more nor less?

Mr. Curry.

It was about the same. I had several conferences during the day with various staff members and I was kept informed of the progress of the