Mr. Patterson.

The sergeant.

Mr. Hubert.

Sergeant Dean?

Mr. Patterson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, of course, with respect to police, I guess their uniform would establish their identity?

Mr. Patterson.

No, they have a regular identification.

Mr. Hubert.

And you were instructed to have them show their official identification?

Mr. Patterson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

You did so?

Mr. Patterson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

What about the identification of newsmen?

Mr. Patterson.

Well, the best I could tell, they pulled out all the identification---part of them had pictures of who they worked for, where they lived, some of them didn't have nothing, some of them had stickers and I had to turn one of them back--I did--he come up there in a WRR truck and got out of it but didn't have no identification and he had to go back and get some.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, as far as you were concerned, you were not satisfied if a man just simply had a badge on saying "press"?

Mr. Patterson.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

You went further and required something that would satisfy you?

Mr. Patterson.

Yes---anybody can pick up a press badge.

Mr. Hubert.

And you actually tuned back some people who claimed to be the press, but you weren't satisfied with their identification?

Mr. Patterson.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you require a picture?

Mr. Patterson.

Some of them had pictures and some of them didn't--some of them had where they lived--on down further who they worked for and what press--and they had cameras on.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, if they had that sort of thing, you figured that that was proper?

Mr. Patterson.

Well, it's proper identification--you know half of them didn't know they were supposed to have the pictures. Of course, I don't guess the chief or anybody notified them to have pictures like they did down at the county.

Mr. Hubert.

But you considered that the identification you required as to newsmen, when they didn't have a picture, would be such as would satisfy you in normal police work in identifying anybody?

Mr. Patterson.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Driver's license and things of that sort?

Mr. Patterson.

Well, sometimes I would have them show me their driver's license and that on top of their identification too, to make sure that was the same person.

Mr. Hubert.

So, you stayed in that position I guess from about 9:30 until actually

Mr. Patterson.

Almost 12 o'clock, I believe.

Mr. Hubert.

After the killing--after the ambulance went through?

Mr. Patterson.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you been given any instructions as to how the transfer was to take place?

Mr. Patterson.

All they told me was that he would be transferred by armored car and for me to stay on the right side of it---of the armored car---as it was being backed in, and I stayed there.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, I have previously handed you another document which I have marked for identification by writing on the margin as follows: "Dallas, Texas, April 14, 1964, Exhibit 5312, Deposition of Patrolman Bobby G. Patter-

son," and I have signed my name below. Now, I show you that document?

Mr. Patterson.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

You have seen it and have read it?

Mr. Patterson.

Yes.