Mr. Hubert.

but the rules also provide that you can waive it if you want to. If you are willing to testify and waive the 3 days notice, we can go ahead.

Mr. Patterson.

I am as willing as he is.

Mr. Hubert.

All right; would you stand up and raise your fight hand and I will administer the oath.
Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God ?

Mr. Patterson.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Will you state your name, please, sir?

Mr. Patterson.

Bobby G. Patterson.

Mr. Hubert.

How old are you, sir?

Mr. Patterson.

Thirty-three.

Mr. Hubert.

And what is your residence.?

Mr. Patterson.

Mesquite, Tex., 3463 Caracas [spelling] C-a-r-a-c-a-s.

Mr. Hubert.

Your occupation is what?

Mr. Patterson.

Patrolman, Dallas Police Department.

Mr. Hubert.

How long have you been on the Dallas Police Department?

Mr. Patterson.

Oh, about 5 1/2 years.

Mr. Hubert.

What did you do before that?

Mr. Patterson.

I worked for American Beauty Flour Co. down here on South Ervay.

Mr. Hubert.

Mr. Patterson, I have shown you a document which for the purpose of identification I have marked in the fight margin the words, "Dallas, Tex., April 14, 1964, Exhibit 5311, Patrolman Bobby G. Patterson," and I have put my name on it, and since it contains a second page, I have put my initials at the bottom of the second page, and I ask you if you have read that document?

Mr. Patterson.

I have.

Mr. Hubert.

That purports to be a report of an interview of you made by Special Agents Horror and Propst [spelling] P-r-o-p-s-t, on November 30, 1963, does it not; is that correct?

Mr. Patterson.

I believe it is --I wouldn't say for sure----it was on Saturday, I believe I don't know when it was.

Mr. Hubert.

In any case, I ask you if you think that this report identified as Exhibit 5311 is a fair report of the interview that you had with the FBI agents ?

Mr. Patterson.

It is a fair report.

Mr. Hubert.

Is there anything that you would like to add or delete or modify with respect to Exhibit 5311?

Mr. Patterson.

No, that's just about it, As far as the time, now, I don't know about some of the time in my report and every report and stuff like that--I don't know if that makes any difference or not. That is as near as I could get it.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, let me ask you this--you say you are not sure about the times that are stated in this report, Exhibit 5311. I take it that you weren't sure really at the time that they interviewed you; is that correct?

Mr. Patterson.

Yes--you know, the correct time?

Mr. Hubert.

Well, of course, I note that where this exhibit does mention time, it says "about."

Mr. Patterson.

Well, that's what I put it, "about."

Mr. Hubert.

You did not know Ruby at all?

Mr. Patterson.

I did not.

Mr. Hubert.

And you were at the top of the Commerce Street ramp?

Mr. Patterson.

The ramp; yes, .sir.

Mr. Hubert.

From about 9:30 on--you never left it?

Mr. Patterson.

I never left

Mr. Hubert.

As far as you know, no one unidentified was there?

Mr. Patterson.

No one without proper identification.

Mr. Hubert.

Tell us what you understood was meant by "proper identification"?

Mr. Patterson.

Well, he said not to let no one in except police and reporters unless they had proper identification.

Mr. Hubert.

You said they told you--who was that?