Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember telling anyone of them about having seen either of these two men that we just talked about, that is to say, the man coming down the rail, or coming down the ramp, or the man coming over the rail?

Mr. Newman.

No, at the time I didn't even recall placing any significance on the fact, because at the time I didn't even know what had happened.

Mr. Hubert.

You don't recall talking to anybody about either of these two episodes, the man going down the ramp and the man Jumping over the rail while you were at Parkland that day?

Mr. Newman.

No, I didn't.

Mr. Hubert.

I gather from your statement, but I think I had better get it exactly straight, that you did not do anything with respect to either of the two men?

Mr. Newman.

No, I had no contact with them.

Mr. Hubert.

I didn't mean that contact, so much as I meant taking some police action.

Mr. Newman.

No, that is what I meant too.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. Do you know an officer by the name of Brock? Reserve officer, I believe.

Mr. Newman.

No, I don't. I don't recognize the name.

Mr. Hubert.

And one by the name of Worley?

Mr. Newman.

No, I don't recognize that name either. I might know him on sight if I see him.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, have you any other comments to make? I think the thing is clarified.

Mr. Newman.

No, we had our misunderstanding last night. I didn't know what needed to be clarified. I know I was thoroughly shaky and possibly not too accurate as to the details of what happened in that basement prior to the shooting in the hour or hour and a haft, but that wasn't my concern, and I didn't pay too much attention. I Just gave it as best I remembered.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, I wasn't at the deposition last night, so I don't know what went on, and I, therefore, will not ask you any further questions. Have you had any interview with me prior to taking of this deposition today ?

Mr. Newman.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. I think that is all. Thank you for coming very much.

Mr. Newman.

I do have one other thing here that Mr. Griffin seemed to be concerned about last night, in that I couldn't identify a man, a reserve officer I had met in the basement of the garage, or immediately after I got there by name. That that you are holding is a class picture that was made. I can now identify--I have a list of names in my pocket if you want them.

Mr. Hubert.

The only way for it to be of the use would be if you would let me mark the picture and put it in the record.

Mr. Newman.

You may have it if you like. I don't know whether it is of any importance or not.

Mr. Hubert.

I don't either, but--do you want it to go in?

Mr. Newman.

Not necessarily. I am leaving it up to you.

Mr. Hubert.

As I say, I don't know what the question was last night about identification, and you have brought this matter up; I am perfectly willing to hear what you have to say about it. I think it would be better, if you comment about it, to put it in the record, but on the other hand maybe it wouldn't necessary. Why don't you say what you have to say about it and then we can judge better?

Mr. Newman.

As near as I can recall, when he was questioning me about what officers I had seen in the basement that morning whom I knew, and the subject came up that I had seen one man but t could not remember his name. He asked me at that time for a description of him and I gave it to him. After looking at that picture last night when I got home, and with the list of names I had for the picture, I can now give the man's name, if you would like

Mr. Hubert.

Yes; go ahead.

Mr. Newman.

Third from the left--second from the left on the back row Casten, Jerome Casten.

Mr. Hubert.

Jerome Casten. Now, that was the reserve officer that Mr.