Mr. Hubert.

Well, can you tell us what that was about? About what time?

Mr. Curry.

I don't recall exactly the time it was--it was in the evening, sometime after they had interrogated, I think, Oswald. I think he had been in the showup once or twice previous to this for witnesses to observe him, and there were so many newsmen in the halls that they were not all of them able to see or to get any pictures or any thing else in the north corridor of the third floor, and some of them asked me to--sometime during the evening--when they could see Oswald, how does he look, can we see him ?
At this time Henry Wade, the district attorney, was up there and Alexander was up there.

Mr. Hubert.

He is the assistant district attorney ?

Mr. Curry.

Yes; and something was said about--how about letting us see him or could we see him?

Mr. Hubert.

That was said by Wade or Alexander or by the newsmen ?

Mr. Curry.

By the newsmen.

Mr. Hubert.

In the presence of Wade and Alexander ?

Mr. Curry.

Yes; as I recall it, I asked Henry Wade, "Do you see anything wrong with it," and as I recall, he told me, "Not that I know of, I don't see anything wrong with it." And, so, we told them if they would go to the assembly room that we would let them see Oswald.

Mr. Hubert.

Is the assembly room located on another floor?

Mr. Curry.

Yes, in the basement; we were on the third floor.

Mr. Hubert.

And the assembly room is in effect--it is a room, as I recall it, that might seat 50 or 75 people?

Mr. Curry.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And it has a little stage with the usual showup apparatus?

Mr. Curry.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

That is to say, there is gauze in front of the prisoners, so that the audience can see them, but the prisoners can't look out. And there are markings on it as to height and their numbers?

Mr. Curry.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

That's the room we are talking about?

Mr. Curry.

Yes, that's the room he was taken to. He was not put on the stage, he was just put in front of the stage for the showup.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, he was not put behind the gauze?

Mr. Curry.

Not this time, I think he was on previous occasions.

Mr. Hubert.

Yes; when there was a real lineup for identification?

Mr. Curry.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

But this was not an identification lineup?

Mr. Curry.

No; it was the news media clamoring to see him, and they wanted to know when they could look at him or when they could observe him, and on the third floor when he was brought to and from the interrogation room, which was Captain Fritz' office, they had to go about 20 or 25 feet, and they almost mobbed him every time they would bring him through.

Mr. Hubert.

You are saying they had to go about 20 or 25 feet to get to the elevator?

Mr. Curry.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

That is the inside elevator, not the public elevator?

Mr. Curry.

That's right.

Mr. Hubert.

It's the inside elevator

Mr. Curry.

The prisoners' elevator.

Mr. Hubert.

That leads all of the police department down into the basement into the jail?

Mr. Curry.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, sir; go ahead.

Mr. Curry.

So, we warned them not to try to interfere with him or anything else and we would let them see him. We did take him down and let them briefly see him--this was just a very short time.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you present then?

Mr. Curry.

Yes; I was.

Mr. Hubert.

Who else was present, among the police officers you recall?

Mr. Curry.

I don't recall--I think Fritz was--I don't know that he was in