Mr. Hubert.

Ford Fairlane. Do you remember the color ?

Mr. Mayo.

Seemed to me like it was a blue, or light color of some kind.

Mr. Hubert.

Was it a sedan?

Mr. Mayo.

It was a 4-door.

Mr. Hubert.

4-door sedan? Hard top?

Mr. Mayo.

Yes, sir; hard top.

Mr. Hubert.

What model, about? A new car? Could you please give us some idea about the model ?

Mr. Mayo.

It was a late model car.

Mr. Hubert.

Was it a 1964 model?

Mr. Mayo.

No, no; it wasn't a 1964 model. If I was going to guess I would say a 1962 or 1963--one. That man was hatless and he had a high forehead.

Mr. Hubert.

He wasn't bald was he?

Mr. Mayo.

I wouldn't say he was bald, just had a high forehead.

Mr. Hubert.

Was that the driver?

Mr. Mayo.

That was the driver.

Mr. Hubert.

How was he dressed?

Mr. Mayo.

He had on an old, old--looks like he had a heavy wool shirt like you wear in the winter, long sleeves.

Mr. Hubert.

Have a tie on?

Mr. Mayo.

No tie.

Mr. Hubert.

What color was the shirt? Do you remember?

Mr. Mayo.

The shirt--it was kind of checked color.

Mr. Hubert.

Was he dark complected?

Mr. Mayo.

He was dark complected.

Mr. Hubert.

How old a man?

Mr. Mayo.

I would guess in the forties, just by looking at him, and I have wondered since about his interest in it. Maybe just somebody that was inquisitive and wanted to see what was going on.

Mr. Hubert.

Could be. On the other hand we want to get all the facts, and that is a fact. What about the other man ? Did you see him ?

Mr. Mayo.

I didn't pay much attention to him, because he was on the other side and I was dealing with the driver. It was a one-way street, and I was dealing with the-driver over here and I didn't pay too much attention to the other man. I couldn't even describe him.

Mr. Hubert.

How close do you suppose you were to this man each time he drove up?

Mr. Mayo.

Oh, I'd say 4 to 6 feet. See, my duty was to stand on the sidewalk and keep the overflow of people we had about 200 people, and if I moved out, somebody on the sidewalk could go in behind me, and I didn't get too far from the entrance of the

Mr. Hubert.

I'm going to show you a set of pictures and ask if that man there look at them all first before you answer--bears any resemblance at all to the man you saw?

Mr. Mayo.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Let the record show that the witness was looking at the pictures of Curtis Lavern Crafard. What about the other man in the car? Did he look like this fellow?

Mr. Mayo.

Sir, I wasn't close enough to make any identification or recognize him. He was on the other side and I wasn't able to.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, was there anything else that you want to state to us?

Mr. Mayo.

No; I can't think of anything else, sir. It was all just--I'd say, a state of commotion and confusion when this happened, and I had people everywhere around me and I just assumed that they are curiosity seekers. Making various comments about the assassination of a President.

Mr. Hubert.

I want to identify these pictures a little further. The pictures that were shown to the witness were various views of a man by the name of Curtis Lavern Crafard, taken November 28, 1963, by the FBI, and forwarded to the Commission recently. All right, sir. Is there anything else that you want to state about anything we have been talking about?

Mr. Mayo.

No; I Can't think of anything else that would pertain to this in