Mr. Mayo.

No, sir; he had no coat on.

Mr. Hubert.

Just a shirt?

Mr. Mayo.

Just a shirt, heavy shirt and no tie on.

Mr. Hubert.

And you gave that information to Jack Revill?

Mr. Mayo.

I mentioned it to him and he said, well, just probably somebody knew him and trying to use an excuse to get in, so, he didn't feel like it was--it is my opinion it might be this fellow Senator that we have been hearing about. I don't know how you spell his name.

Mr. Hubert.

Can you estimate what time it was that this man, the heavy man, tried to get in to see Jack Ruby through the Main Street entrance?

Mr. Mayo.

Sir, I would only have to estimate it at, I would say, around 11:45.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, anything else that you mentioned to Revill that was not put down?

Mr. Mayo.

Yes, sir. I mentioned about the tourists. That is a man and a woman that hung around the entrance on the Main Street side and said they were just passing through Dallas, and they lived in Springfield, Ill., I believe they said, and they wanted to take some pictures, and they kept hanging around the entrance and they did take a few pictures and finally left. I don't know if they are connected with it or not.

Mr. Hubert.

Anyhow, you mentioned that episode to Jack Revill and he also was of the opinion that it was not important?

Mr. Mayo.

Minor, minor.

Mr. Hubert.

Any other things then?

Mr. Mayo.

Yes, sir. While I was on the Commerce Street side I had a Ford Fairlane car that came up about three times with two men in the front seat, and each time they would stop and ask me if he had come down---"What's happening?" I wondered then--now, I didn't mention that to Revill, because I didn't think about it at the time, but I wondered since then if they had some connection with this--

Mr. Hubert.

You did not mention that to Revill?

Mr. Mayo.

No, sir; I didn't.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, you didn't take the license number ?

Mr. Mayo.

No, sir; it was Just routine to me. They kept coming by.

Mr. Hubert.

And how many times did they pass you, do you know?

Mr. Mayo.

Third time

Mr. Hubert.

YOU saw them three times? Three times they came down Commerce ?

Mr. Mayo.

Came down--Commerce is one way going east, and they came down on my side and they slowed down and stopped and asked me, "Has he come down? Is anything happening?" And I would motion them on, because my job was to keep the street open.

Mr. Hubert.

And that happened three times?

Mr. Mayo.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

And after the third time, what happened? Is that when the shot was fired or something, or you didn't see them any more or---

Mr. Mayo.

After--I didn't hear the shot, but the hustle and bustle and noise in the basement, I looked down there and the men and all going around and around. Everything--and I heard a little radio from a pedestrian that said that Oswald had been shot, broadcast, and just about that time, I saw them going down Commerce Street.

Mr. Hubert.

When you say "them," you mean the two men in the Fair-lane car ?

Mr. Mayo.

Yes, sir. They were just a little past the entrance when all this commotion started.

Mr. Hubert.

That was the third trip ?

Mr. Mayo.

That was the third trip down.. I went on down--went downstairs.

Mr. Hubert.

You didn't notice whether it was a Texas license or not; or out of State?

Mr. Mayo.

I didn't get a chance to see the license.