Cliff. I was still at the hospital at this time and I was told by some of the Secret Service people, I don't recall who, to get my car ready and another car ready to take the President--we were informed that President Kennedy had expired--and we were asked to have two automobiles standing by to take President Johnson to Love Field.

Mr. Hubert.

Let me stop you and ask you this: When you had the news of the death of Tippit, or the shooting of Tippit, did you associate that in any way with the President's assassination?

Mr. Curry.

No; I didn't at the time.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, sir; go on.

Mr. Curry.

In a little while President Johnson came out, and some of his aides, and got into my car and some of his other people came and got in¢o another vehicle driven by Inspector Putnam of the Dallas Police Department, and we were instructed to go to Love Field, to get there by the nearest route with the least amount of noise, but to go there as quickly as we could. So I drove to Love Field and the President got out of the car with his group and went aboard the Presidential plane.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you have any idea about what time you left the hospital to go to Love Field?

Mr. Curry.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, perhaps you can arrive at it this way; you know the time you arrived there?

Mr. Curry.

It seemed we were there about 30 minutes at the hospital'-30 minutes or so, and we probably got there a little after 12:30, so that would have been around a little after I :15, I believe.

Mr. Hubert.

It was a little after 1:15 that you started to move to Love Field?

Mr. Curry.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, did you know Jack Ruby prior to that time?

Mr. Curry.

No, sir; I didn't.

Mr. Hubert.

You had never seen him ?

Mr. Curry.

If I had ever seen him, I didn't know it. I might have seen him but I didn't recognize him.

Mr. Hubert.

Of course, now, you know who Jack Ruby is; you have seen him?

Mr. Curry.

I have seen him in the courtroom.

Mr. Hubert.

Can you tell us whether or not among any of the people that you saw at the hospital anywhere, whether Jack Ruby was at the hospital?

Mr. Curry.

If he was, I didn't know it.

Mr. Hubert.

That's what I'm asking--you didn't see the man that you now know to be Jack Ruby?

Mr. Curry.

No, sir; I didn't.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know a reporter from the Washington, D.C., newspaper who is called Seth Kantor?

Mr. Curry.

I believe he used to be in Dallas.

Mr. Hubert.

I believe he was, and moved on to Washington.

Mr. Curry.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you see him out there?

Mr. Curry.

I don't recall who all I saw out there-- I saw a number of people out there. If I saw him, I don't recall it. I very easily could have seen him out there.

Mr. Hubert.

And it follows from what you said before, of course, that you did not see Kantor with Ruby?

Mr. Curry.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

So, let's go back then to the point we left off, and that is to say--the arrival at Love Field

Mr. Curry.

Yes, sir; we arrived at Love Field with the President and his party and they got out of the car and got on the plane.
I was informed by someone a little later that Judge Sarah Hughes was coming out to swear in the President, to give him the oath of office, and we stood by and when she arrived I escorted her onto the plane and into the presence of the President and was there while she gave to him the oath of office. Immediately after he was given the oath of office, as I recall it, the President said, "Let's get out of here." And, I left the plane with Judge Sarah Hughes and