Mr. Hubert.

Now, did you have anything to do with the planning of the movement of Oswald?
Captain MARTIN. No.

Mr. Hubert.

Did, you have any knowledge as to what the plan was?
Captain MARTIN. I knew nothing. I just went down there. That's about it.

Mr. Hubert.

Were you ordered to go down?
Captain MARTIN. Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

By whom?
Captain MARTIN. Chief Stevenson.

Mr. Hubert.

About what time, sir?
Captain MARTIN. Oh, I would say between 10:30 and 10:45, somewhere around there.

Mr. Hubert.

Chief Stevenson is your immediate superior?
Captain MARTIN. Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

What did he instruct you to do?
Captain MARTIN. Just to go to the basement is all.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he give you any specific duty to perform
Captain MARTIN. No.

Mr. Hubert.

When you got there, what time was it?
Captain MARTIN. I don't recall. It was a few minutes before 11, I believe.

Mr. Hubert.

What did you do?
Captain MARTIN. Well, I just got out there by the ramp and just stood there.

Mr. Hubert.

How long did you stand before the actual shooting of Oswald?
Captain MARTIN. I imagine I was down there 20 or 25 minutes.

Mr. Hubert.

I'm going to mark a chart. A chart of the basement area, as follows, to wit: "Dallas, Texas, March 24, Exhibit 5060, deposition of Capt. F. M. Martin." Signing it with my own name. Now, I would like to ask you, Captain, if you could sign the other three documents just below my name, that is to say, 5058 and 5059. Please initial a second page of 5058, below my initial and then sign 5059. I will ask you to sign for the purposes of identification under my name the document 5060. Now, Captain, it may be that you will want to look at this mockup here of the basement area, and then we will enter it on the map, but if you could show us where you stood on the mockup here, from the time you got down there at about 11, I think, until Oswald was shot, and you say you did not move around?
Captain MARTIN. I wasn't in one spot all this time, but when he came out, of course, there was a car sitting right--I guess the back end of the car was coming to about here [indicating].

Mr. Hubert.

All right, now, you are showing the back end of the car, and I am going to, with a pen draw in on Exhibit 5060, the approximate position of the back end of the car as you demonstrated it.
Captain MARTIN. Be about right there [indicating]. No; not that far. About right here.

Mr. Hubert.

About like so?
Captain MARTIN. Uh-huh.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, I have drawn on the map a rough image of a car, by using simply a square, and I have marked it "car". Now, would you take the pen, sir, and--your own pen, and mark by the use of a circle your position with

reference to the car at the time of the shooting. Now, let's get that.
Captain MARTIN. I was about right here [indicating].

Mr. Hubert.

Now, would you just write in your own handwriting there, "The position of F. M. Martin at the time of the shooting.". Now, Captain, you think you--you said you had been in that general basement area for about 20 minutes prior to the shooting?
Captain MARTIN. I would say that. I don't know for sure.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you see anybody you knew?
Captain MARTIN. Well, most of the press I knew. No one outside of the press that I knew.

Mr. Hubert.

You did know Jack Ruby, I understand ?
Captain MARTIN. Yes; I knew Jack.

Mr. Hubert.

And I think, that is already in report?
Captain MARTIN. Yes; it is in here.